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Old December 23rd, 2015, 12:36 PM
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Re: The Book of Mephisto

Here is one we let slip I believe...

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Re: The Book of Mephisto

Bumping this to endorse Just a Bill's update, and also point out that the comic art being used here is

a) not the one linked in the OP
b) definitely fan art

I feel like that should probably be changed

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Old June 12th, 2016, 08:25 PM
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Re: The Book of Mephisto

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Playing catch-up here, I had the same concern Dok did about "pouncing" effects. It's good that you made his proposed change to "would be destroyed" ...

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Start the game with 4 red Deal Markers on this card. While there is a Deal Marker on this card, when an opponent's Unique Hero that does not have a Valiant personality would be destroyed, you may choose that Hero and roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 6 or higher, remove all Wound Markers from that Hero's card, place that Hero on the space it previously occupied and place a Deal Marker from this card on that Hero's card. Androids, Constructs, and Undead are not affected by this special power.
... but since this became an "instead-of" effect, I don't think it's correct to say "place that Hero on the space it previously occupied" you are never removing the figure now, right? If you remove the figure from the battlefield, then it's been destroyed (at least for an instant); and if it's destroyed, then Sabretooth lands on its space and you still have the problem Dok warned about.

This seems more like what you want (note also the inclusion of the serial comma):
DEAL WITH THE DEVIL
Start the game with 4 red Deal Markers on this card. While there is a Deal Marker on this card, when an opponent's Unique Hero that does not have a Valiant personality would be destroyed, you may choose that Hero and roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 6 or higher, remove all Wound Markers from that Hero's card, leave that Hero on the space it previously occupied occupies, and place a Deal Marker from this card on that Hero's card. Androids, Constructs, and Undead are not affected by this special power.
You could even shorten it to "... leave that Hero on the battlefield, ..." which may also connote just a tad more strongly that you are canceling its destruction.
Looks like this one fell off again. As per his post on the previous page, Bats is in favor of this change. As am I. Anyone against? @johnny139 @Karat @SirGalahad @Viegon
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Bumping this to endorse Just a Bill's update, and also point out that the comic art being used here is

a) not the one linked in the OP
b) definitely fan art

I feel like that should probably be changed
Also a good catch. @japes , once we got the wording sorted out, will you be able to update this one? Or is @Flame Gryphon still active at all?

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Old June 12th, 2016, 09:11 PM
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Re: The Book of Mephisto

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Playing catch-up here, I had the same concern Dok did about "pouncing" effects. It's good that you made his proposed change to "would be destroyed" ...

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Start the game with 4 red Deal Markers on this card. While there is a Deal Marker on this card, when an opponent's Unique Hero that does not have a Valiant personality would be destroyed, you may choose that Hero and roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 6 or higher, remove all Wound Markers from that Hero's card, place that Hero on the space it previously occupied and place a Deal Marker from this card on that Hero's card. Androids, Constructs, and Undead are not affected by this special power.
... but since this became an "instead-of" effect, I don't think it's correct to say "place that Hero on the space it previously occupied" you are never removing the figure now, right? If you remove the figure from the battlefield, then it's been destroyed (at least for an instant); and if it's destroyed, then Sabretooth lands on its space and you still have the problem Dok warned about.

This seems more like what you want (note also the inclusion of the serial comma):
DEAL WITH THE DEVIL
Start the game with 4 red Deal Markers on this card. While there is a Deal Marker on this card, when an opponent's Unique Hero that does not have a Valiant personality would be destroyed, you may choose that Hero and roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 6 or higher, remove all Wound Markers from that Hero's card, leave that Hero on the space it previously occupied occupies, and place a Deal Marker from this card on that Hero's card. Androids, Constructs, and Undead are not affected by this special power.
You could even shorten it to "... leave that Hero on the battlefield, ..." which may also connote just a tad more strongly that you are canceling its destruction.
Looks like this one fell off again. As per his post on the previous page, Bats is in favor of this change. As am I. Anyone against? @johnny139 @Karat @SirGalahad @Viegon
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Bumping this to endorse Just a Bill's update, and also point out that the comic art being used here is

a) not the one linked in the OP
b) definitely fan art

I feel like that should probably be changed
Also a good catch. @japes , once we got the wording sorted out, will you be able to update this one? Or is @Flame Gryphon still active at all?
I think @A3n has some of his files so hopefully he checks in.

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Old June 13th, 2016, 09:56 AM
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Re: The Book of Mephisto

We can remove leave the hero on the space it occupies. If its not a change, we don't need to mention it.

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Old June 13th, 2016, 11:01 AM
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Re: The Book of Mephisto

Yeah, I agree with quozl here; remove that line and toss in an "instead" to clarify that it's happening instead of the figure getting destroyed:

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DEAL WITH THE DEVIL
Start the game with 4 red Deal Markers on this card. While there is a Deal Marker on this card, when an opponent's Unique Hero that does not have a Valiant personality would be destroyed, you may choose that Hero and roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 6 or higher, instead remove all Wound Markers from that Hero's card, place that Hero on the space it previously occupied and place a Deal Marker from this card on that Hero's card. Androids, Constructs, and Undead are not affected by this special power.
Though while we're at it, the second sentence seems kind of clumsy to me. What about:

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Start the game with 4 red Deal Markers on this card. While there is a Deal Marker on this card, When an opponent's Unique Hero that does not have a Valiant personality would be destroyed, if there is a Deal Marker on this card, you may choose that Hero and roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 6 or higher, instead remove all Wound Markers from that Hero's card and place a Deal Marker from this card on that Hero's card. Androids, Constructs, and Undead are not affected by this special power.

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Re: The Book of Mephisto

I'm good with both those changes. If we can get a couple more Heroes on board, we can move forward with implementing them.

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Re: The Book of Mephisto

I have class tomorrow and Thursday and homework and job searching to do, but I can definitely do it by Friday at the latest.

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Re: The Book of Mephisto

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What about:

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DEAL WITH THE DEVIL
Start the game with 4 red Deal Markers on this card. While there is a Deal Marker on this card, When an opponent's Unique Hero that does not have a Valiant personality would be destroyed, if there is a Deal Marker on this card, you may choose that Hero and roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 6 or higher, instead remove all Wound Markers from that Hero's card and place a Deal Marker from this card on that Hero's card. Androids, Constructs, and Undead are not affected by this special power.
V proposed this based on JaB's suggestions, and I am on board, but we need a few more Heroes to chime in before we can update the card. New guys, here's your chance to chime in!

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Re: The Book of Mephisto

I like it. Definitely reads more cleanly.
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Re: The Book of Mephisto

That read a lot more cleanly, so yeah .

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Re: The Book of Mephisto

Seems to read well to me.
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