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Old October 12th, 2014, 07:28 PM
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Looks like there are some good ideas for Mastermind builds here. And since he's one of the "big four" mentioned by dok, I'll consider him my priority over Sage.

Any thoughts on armies to take him against? Also any thoughts on army sizes to go with? My default would be two 1,000 point armies, but if competitive folks don't think that's the best way to explore problems, let me know!
Just bumping for comments on the bolded. I've played Mastermind dozens of times and not seen it as problematic, so I want to make sure I'm playing the right types of tests here.

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Looks like there are some good ideas for Mastermind builds here. And since he's one of the "big four" mentioned by dok, I'll consider him my priority over Sage.

Any thoughts on armies to take him against? Also any thoughts on army sizes to go with? My default would be two 1,000 point armies, but if competitive folks don't think that's the best way to explore problems, let me know!
Just bumping for comments on the bolded. I've played Mastermind dozens of times and not seen it as problematic, so I want to make sure I'm playing the right types of tests here.
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For Mastermind, it's awfully tough to beat Mastermind/Blob/Magneto(I)/Magma/Deadpool. Alternatively, pair him with John Stewart, another strong ranged figure or two (possibly Cable or Deadpool), and maybe a Green Construct shield or two.
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Re: C3G Requests for Reevaluation

That doesn't really answer who to take him against.

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Re: C3G Requests for Reevaluation

Oh. Well, my general policy is just pick typical stuff and don't counterdraft. I mean, we know that a Mastermind Pod will lose to Cable and Dark Phoenix but that doesn't prove much. Generic bonding armies are my usual go-to.
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What are the typical 1000 point armies in the competitive scene nowadays?

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What are the typical 1000 point armies in the competitive scene nowadays?
Any xmen squad for 1000, Fan4, insane build, ninjas+assassins, Hydra Agents +ruthless masterminds etc.
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Any xmen squad for 1000, Fan4, insane build, ninjas+assassins, Hydra Agents +ruthless masterminds etc.
We haven't played standard 1000-point armies in a while. We mix it up a lot.
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Re: C3G Requests for Reevaluation

Well met!

Speaking of mixing it up, the Gang's next game has each player fielding a 750 point Delta+ army, 200 or less of which is a single super villain that may be assigned any General, Species, Class, or Personality that the player wishes. Baron Zemo could be an Utgar Orc Champion, and bond with the Blade or Heavy Gruts, for example.



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Speaking of mixing it up, the Gang's next game has each player fielding a 750 point Delta+ army, 200 or less of which is a single super villain that may be assigned any General, Species, Class, or Personality that the player wishes. Baron Zemo could be an Utgar Orc Champion, and bond with the Blade or Heavy Gruts, for example.
Conan with Heavy Grut bonding would be an insane amount of melee offense.
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Just trying to think what I'd want the Crow to bond with. Yeeeeesh.
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What are the typical 1000 point armies in the competitive scene nowadays?
Any xmen squad for 1000, Fan4, insane build, ninjas+assassins, Hydra Agents +ruthless masterminds etc.
I've started using the Wrecking Crew (for 800 points) in a lot of testing too. Throw in a 200 point ally like Conan, Black Panther, or Kraven when playing at 1000, any one of those 3 makes for a solid clean up unit after the Wrecking Crew have done their job.
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What are the typical 1000 point armies in the competitive scene nowadays?
Any xmen squad for 1000, Fan4, insane build, ninjas+assassins, Hydra Agents +ruthless masterminds etc.
I've started using the Wrecking Crew (for 800 points) in a lot of testing too. Throw in a 200 point ally like Conan, Black Panther, or Kraven when playing at 1000, any one of those 3 makes for a solid clean up unit after the Wrecking Crew have done their job.
Isn't the Wrecking Crew pretty swingy? I have played them a few times and I've had games where they pretty much Wreck everything when you get hot on the roll but there are other games where they were pretty weak. I doesn't seem like you can use that as a reliable costing point and it would seem to make more sense to use a non swingy (or even d20 reliant teams) that are consistently worth their points. It may just be my inconsistent luck with the D20. I know things tend to work out for the averages long term but my luck is either all good or all bad each game. I mean I did just get an entire Dr. Doom/Doombot army essentially rendered useless in one round when Doom whiffed on defense and then I rolled a 4 for Doombots.

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