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Old January 16th, 2011, 10:57 AM
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"As a substitute, Slavicsek said that they would ‘explore more options’ for players and DMs to represent their characters and monsters, possibly with flat tokens instead of 3D models."

Oh, that sounds like fun!
It sounds like Cardboard Heros, which has been available from Steve Jackson Games for decades. And still is for that matter...

I've seen people proxy the D&D minis using stand up print outs of the gallery pictures from the WOTC website.

I wonder what this means for Axis and Allies minis?

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Re: WotC ends miniature production

I just saw some beautiful prepainted plastic Rackham minis in my FLGS while I was there to play yesterday. I think two mounted knights were $25.

Heroscape was a real outlier when it came to the nexus of price/quality/selection. The discontinuation of the D&D line as well is a disappointment, but not a shock. Just as with Heroscape, my only wish is that they would just continue to leak out some reprints (possibly at a new price point).
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Re: WotC ends miniature production

Its all this darn Xbox Live. Miniatures aren't as popular anymore, so they don't make money.

WoTC cares only for the profit, not the game, so if it's not making the monies, its going in the trash.

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Its all this darn Xbox Live. Miniatures aren't as popular anymore, so they don't make money.

WoTC cares only for the profit, not the game, so if it's not making the monies, its going in the trash.
I'm pretty sure the same can be said for any manufacturer in the world.



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WoTC cares only for the profit, not the game, so if it's not making the monies, its going in the trash.
I'm pretty sure the same can be said for any manufacturer in the world.
Well, while true, what various companies consider an acceptable profit margin is often affected by their passion for the product.
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Its all this darn Xbox Live. Miniatures aren't as popular anymore, so they don't make money.

WoTC cares only for the profit, not the game, so if it's not making the monies, its going in the trash.
I'm pretty sure the same can be said for any manufacturer in the world.
I agree, if WOTC cant afford D&D miniatures than heroscape had to to go now I see WOTC is ether in big trouble financially or every one is right and they are just greedy. Since heroscape can't really be played with figures it makes since why they would drop it if they had to drop D&D later.

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WoTC cares only for the profit, not the game, so if it's not making the monies, its going in the trash.
I'm pretty sure the same can be said for any manufacturer in the world.
Well, while true, what various companies consider an acceptable profit margin is often affected by their passion for the product.
This is pretty much only true when you are talking about a private company, not a public company with stock, which Hasbro is. Profit margin and how much you can make the shareholders is all that matters at the end of the day when you are dealing with that dynamic.

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This is pretty much only true when you are talking about a private company, not a public company with stock, which Hasbro is. Profit margin and how much you can make the shareholders is all that matters at the end of the day when you are dealing with that dynamic.
Agreed - which is why I'm not hopeless that a small firm might pick up Heroscape.
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Its all this darn Xbox Live. Miniatures aren't as popular anymore, so they don't make money.
I agree that today's teenager is (if possible) even more wrapped up in video gaming than my generation was (is). So......

If the game is really, really gone, isn't it time for a video game? Something available through XBox LiveArcade (using xna, of course) would be pretty straightforward (from a programming standpoint), and would make the game widely available without the overhead of producing and shipping discs.

I can understand why a HS video game would have been frowned upon while the game was still alive and kickin'; why would someone spend their $ on all the minis if they could have everything in their online collection? However, with the current situation being what it is, it seems as though the window is open for Hasbro/WotC/whoever to use the insanely-popular medium that is video gaming to resolidify a fan-base.

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Its all this darn Xbox Live. Miniatures aren't as popular anymore, so they don't make money.
I agree that today's teenager is (if possible) even more wrapped up in video gaming than my generation was (is). So......

If the game is really, really gone, isn't it time for a video game? Something available through XBox LiveArcade (using xna, of course) would be pretty straightforward (from a programming standpoint), and would make the game widely available without the overhead of producing and shipping discs.

I can understand why a HS video game would have been frowned upon while the game was still alive and kickin'; why would someone spend their $ on all the minis if they could have everything in their online collection? However, with the current situation being what it is, it seems as though the window is open for Hasbro/WotC/whoever to use the insanely-popular medium that is video gaming to resolidify a fan-base.

Just my .
This is something my thoughts have always come across. But I agree with you at the point where we should wait till Heroscape is really dead, more of a collectable than a game, and then introduce the video game.

By that time, the processing system on consoles are going to be INCREDIBLE.

(Maybe to the point where 3D games that lay out the board in front of you.)

Strategy games aren't a new field. (Vandal Hearts, Fire Emblem, Advance Wars)

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Re: WotC ends miniature production

You know what tabletop gaming needs. The holoboard like in Star Wars.

Imagine a table that rendered 3D color images of figures that you can actually watch move and shoot when you direct them on the board's projected hexagonal terrain!

Worried about expansion set costs and distribution? No problem; they just make new units in the programming and you download the expansions from the internet.

Sure, we'll lose the tactile old school feeling and its 12 years off from being feasible, but if minis are no longer profitable, we may have to jump onto the future.
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You know what tabletop gaming needs. The holoboard like in Star Wars.

Imagine a table that rendered 3D color images of figures that you can actually watch move and shoot when you direct them on the board's projected hexagonal terrain!

Worried about expansion set costs and distribution? No problem; they just make new units in the programming and you download the expansions from the internet.

Sure, we'll lose the tactile old school feeling and its 12 years off from being feasible, but if minis are no longer profitable, we may have to jump onto the future.
I offer to place $12 on this idea.

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