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Old September 25th, 2021, 03:49 PM
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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing

With flameslayer's post, I noticed that the OP was missing links to playtests. I just skimmed through the thread and added them; if anyone notices anything that's missing, then please let me know.
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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing

I'm happy with a "normal movement" restriction. It's unfortunate things like Movement Bonding and Carry won't trigger it, but that's a small price to play to avoid problems. I'm going to officially propose the change.
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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing

@flameslayer93 thanks for testing, and @Astroking112 thanks for updating OP.
@Scytale - I second. Just to confirm, this is the proposed wording with both changing figure to opponent and adding the word normal before movement:
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If a small or medium opponent moves at least one space and ends its normal movement within 3 clear sight spaces of Dienekes, if it is no more than 3 levels above Dienekes's height or 3 levels below his base, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 7 or higher, place that figure on any same-level space adjacent to Dienekes. If the figure is engaged before it is moved by Tether of Logos, it will not take any leaving engagement attacks.
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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing

Small fix.

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If a small or medium opponent enemy figure moves at least one space and ends its normal movement within 3 clear sight spaces of Dienekes, if it is no more than 3 levels above Dienekes's height or 3 levels below his base, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 7 or higher, place that figure on any same-level space adjacent to Dienekes. If the figure is engaged before it is moved by Tether of Logos, it will not take any leaving engagement attacks.


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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing

More normal 'Scapy.

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If an opponent's small or medium figure moves at least one space and ends its normal movement within 3 clear sight spaces of Dienekes, if it is no more than 3 levels above Dienekes's height or 3 levels below his base, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 7 or higher, place that figure on any same-level space adjacent to Dienekes. If the figure is engaged before it is moved by Tether of Logos, it will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing

I like that wording. The change to normal movement does change some answers in the checklist, but I don't think that it's immediately problematic since it mostly removes extra triggering points? Either way, limiting it to normal moves will probably avoid confusing power interactions.

If you want to return this one to Editing to be safe, Scytale, just let me know and I can update the index.
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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing

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If you want to return this one to Editing to be safe, Scytale, just let me know and I can update the index.
As you said, it makes for less problematic points and doesn't add any new ones, so no need to run back through the Checklist.
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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing

In Tether, the chained ifs without a conjunction are awkward. In a proposed sentence like "If it rains, if you rode your bike, you can call me for a ride," we would normally fix this in one of two ways:
  • When it rains, if you rode your bike, you can call me for a ride.
  • If it rains and you rode your bike, you can call me for a ride.
Both of these grammatical structures are used on a wide variety of army cards; I'm not sure if one has more "canon weight" than the other.
TETHER OF LOGOS
When an opponent's small or medium figure moves at least one space and ends its movement within 3 clear sight spaces of Dienekes, if it is no more than 3 levels above Dienekes's height or 3 levels below his base, you may roll the 20-sided die. ...

TETHER OF LOGOS
If an opponent's small or medium figure moves at least one space, and ends its movement within 3 clear sight spaces of Dienekes, and is no more than 3 levels above Dienekes's height or 3 levels below his base, you may roll the 20-sided die. ...


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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing

I like this one.

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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing

Playtest here. No real takeaway for Dienekes, though. Guarding a glyph through Tether/tanking is a solid use for him, though. (Also going to suggest basic stats of 5/1/3/6 while I'm here.)


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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing

Poking my head in here. I see @Scytale might want to make some wording tweaks, but other than that it seems to me like y'all probably have enough playtests to "check in" and see if you want to continue playtesting or if you're ready to settle on a point value and vote to move forward.
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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing

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Poking my head in here. I see @Scytale might want to make some wording tweaks, but other than that it seems to me like y'all probably have enough playtests to "check in" and see if you want to continue playtesting or if you're ready to settle on a point value and vote to move forward.



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