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The Book of Juggernaut (Charles Xavier)

The Book of Juggernaut (Charles Xavier)

C3G MARVEL WAVE 35
MUTANT MULTIVERSE



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The figure used for this unit are Heroclix figures from the Free Comic Book Day Promo set.
The model number and name are F17-001 / Juggernaut.


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Character Bio - What If Charles Xavier became the Juggernaut instead of Cain Marko? The answer- Nothing can stop the Juggernaut... from turning the world into a mutant ruled distopia!
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • Crossover Symbol: The Crossover Symbol next to Juggernaut's secret identity indicates that he is draftable into the same army with other Charles Xavier cards. See C3G's Secret Identity Rules.
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:Outgoing Synergy:Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:
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  • Initial playtest: Soundwarp
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  • Third playtest: FreshFoods
  • Fourth playtest:Ronin
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  • Chuckernaut created by Kurt Busiek, Vince Mielcarek, Ian Akin, and Brian Garvey. Professor X and Juggernaut created by Stan Lee and Jacky Kirby, Juggernaut also created by Alan Toth.


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Re: The Book of Juggernaut (Charles Xavier) (start)

NAME = JUGGERNAUT
SECRET IDENTITY = CHARLES XAVIER

SPECIES = MUTANT
UNIQUENESS = EVENT HERO
CLASS = DICTATOR
PERSONALITY = MISGUIDED

SIZE/HEIGHT = LARGE 6

LIFE = 7

MOVE = 7
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 7

POINTS = 400



UNSTOPPABLE FORCE
Juggernaut's movement cannot be stopped by any special power on an Army Card. Juggernaut may move through all figures and will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

REMOVING OBSTACLES
Juggernaut has the class of Telepath in addition to what is on this card. At the beginning of your turn, you may choose 1 enemy Unique Hero without the Mental Shield special power on the battlefield and roll the 20-sided die. Add 1 to your roll for each Unique Hero without the Mental Shield special power on the battlefield. On a 18 or higher, negate all of that figure's special powers until the end of your player turn.

PROPORTIONAL RESPONSE
After revealing an Order Marker on this card and instead of taking a turn with Juggernaut normally, you may take turns with up to X different Mutant Unique Heroes you control. Juggernaut may be one of those Heroes. X equals the number of different Army Cards enemy players took turns with during the last enemy player's turn.


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Re: The Book of Juggernaut (Charles Xavier) (start)

One thing to note here is I currently have him able to take turns with any Mutant Heroes, including Event so he can activate himself. But if we think the 'Juggernaut may be one of those Heroes' bit is enough to allow that by itself then it can be switched to 'Heroes that are Unique or Common' or what not if bonding with other Event Mutant Heroes (currently only Apocalypse) is going to be an issue.

Also not sure if the 'if every figure in your army is a Mutant' restriction might be better as 'if every figure you control is a Mutant'. Right now there are a few random things that will permanently shut of the power relatively easy.


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Re: The Book of Juggernaut (Charles Xavier) (start)

Is there a reason Removing Obstacles is not just before or after you reveal an OM on any card you control? The timing seems a little unclear right now.

Should Proportional Response have some no additional turns language or are we ok with potential extra turns being added to it?

I like the power being every figure you control is a Mutant. Though it does get shut off just by your opponent adding Astral Plane figures to your army.
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Re: The Book of Juggernaut (Charles Xavier) (start)

I’m not really worried about Apocalypse bonding, but it could be a good safeguard to limit it to UHs for potential future designs.

Xavier and Jugs are Lee/Kirby creations, I know that for sure.
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Re: The Book of Juggernaut (Charles Xavier) (start)

If you say you can take a turn with X Unique Heroes you control but then still keep the "Juggernaut can be one of the chosen Heroes" line that should work right?
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Re: The Book of Juggernaut (Charles Xavier) (start)

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Is there a reason Removing Obstacles is not just before or after you reveal an OM on any card you control? The timing seems a little unclear right now.
It's the same timing as Sage or Commander Rodgers (though looking at them I need to say 'beginning of' instead of 'start of'). It happens at the very start of your player turn, before an OM is revealed or what not.

Part of the reason is it hits more powers that way, but the other part is it's easier to word. If it was on OM reveal it would need some wording to stop it from triggering when you reveal OMs for things outside of the normal one for taking a turn.

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Should Proportional Response have some no additional turns language or are we ok with potential extra turns being added to it?
I personally don't think it's needed as there isn't a whole lot that can stack on top of it and it already has an OM requirement. I think the power has enough restrictions that being able to open it up a bit with Mentallo or whatnot is ok.

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I like the power being every figure you control is a Mutant. Though it does get shut off just by your opponent adding Astral Plane figures to your army.
Hmm, yeah I guess someone could just draft a Psyche and shut him down even if it was changed to you control. I suppose it could be further refined to 'if every figure you control on the battlefield with Juggernaut is a Mutant' or something like that.


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Re: The Book of Juggernaut (Charles Xavier) (start)

Can you not just drop the line and make it say "X Mutant Heroes" you control? Then you'll only want to draft Mutants with him but can't get cheesed.
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Re: The Book of Juggernaut (Charles Xavier) (start)

It could just only pick Mutants and be mostly the same.

I wanted to keep the army building restriction because I liked it thematically and it kept him from drafting like two beefy Mutants and then a bunch of random support stuff. But if people would rather just limit the bonding directly I'm ok with that.


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Re: The Book of Juggernaut (Charles Xavier) (start)

I think that's better just to limit the feel bads if you play against a Astral Plane army and have your 400 point Event Hero shut down.
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Re: The Book of Juggernaut (Charles Xavier) (start)

For sure. Though, Psyches at least disappear when their Tether is KO'ed.

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Re: The Book of Juggernaut (Charles Xavier) (start)

Very, uhh, interesting. "What if the Juggernaut was bald?" is the real question.

I'd probably try to cut out Event Heroes, just because, well, that's what we always do. I agree that limiting army building is probably a goal here, if only because he's kind of an obscure concept and shouldn't really be too easy to exploit or metagame-y.
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