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Re: Prop 8 Prevails in California -- Gay Marriage Discussion
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Re: Prop 8 Prevails in California -- Gay Marriage Discussion
I figured that by now you'd have realized that! I assume that not everyone here is a Christian, so I figured I'd better include everyone.
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What part of your genetic make up makes you look at an attractive male and say "Noooo, way!!"? Bannister That can only mean one thing. And I don't know what it is. |
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Let me refresh this one since I'm still waiting for an answer to the question below from Ted D from yesterday... with all the pages since this question, it might have been easy to miss.
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...But what outdated/archaic clauses in texts are you referring to? (straightforward question here... I'm really curious about what you are specifically referring to)... Thanks! SW8K "The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." ~ Thomas Jefferson |
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That said, all of this choice vs. genetics arguing really doesn't count for anything. I've said it before, and I'll reiterate: you can't limit someone's legal rights just because you disagree with the choices they've made, if those choices don't harm the society. The majority of the population might not like people who choose to use patchouli oil instead of shampoo. That doesn't mean that we deny them the right to marry. Again, going back to the Loving v. Virginia case: those people chose to marry outside their race. They might have been born black and white, but they made an extremely unpopular decision to marry outside their color. And just because the vast majority of the population didn't care for that choice, doesn't mean that they had the right to prevent it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the real issue the one of harm? Whether or not allowing gay marriage would harm society? I flatly reject the arguments that allowing gay marriage would cause a pandemic of infectious gayness that would destroy civilization. Between movies like "The Birdcage," and TV shows like "Will & Grace" and "Queer Eye," I think that the secret might be out that there are gay people out there. And yet, somehow, we haven't all turned gay. We are not in danger of catching the gay, and the proportion of gay to straight is not going to cause our birthrate to dwindle away such that we will be overwhelmed by the other countries that have kept their breeding programs running strong. That is not dead which can eternal lie. And with strange aeons, even death may die. Heroes of StarWars 'Scape / North Carolina 'Scapers |
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Legal texts aren't "written by men who wanted people to follow them." And pretty much any "archaic text" would be written by men, so pointing that out in particular sounds more like an argument against the Word of God (just a book written by men). And what legal text is written with the distinct purpose of "wanting people to follow them"? Take all of that into consideration, Rev, and there's much greater evidence that TD was referring to a religious text than a legal one. And my simple question was asking which "archaic clauses in text written by men" were being specifically referred to? TD argued he wasn't singling out any religion or group, so I'd really like to know what archaic text is being thought of in that post. It's a simple and valid question stemming from both the context and wording of the post. And also very germane to the topic being discussed. It's a very bold statement that would benefit from specific clarification. Fair enough? SW8K "The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." ~ Thomas Jefferson |
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I'd say the laws of the United States were written by people "wanting people to follow them."
Perhaps you are correct, SWK8. But I believe it is wise and well to give the other person the benefit of the doubt. I, of course, am more interested in building community here than in winning arguments, so that does color the way I read things. |
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"What do you mean, You People"?
I would see TD's post as being towards using the word "archaic" not in it's most literal sense, but instead using it as a way to describe the "Old School" thoughts as a whole. If he's not singling out a specific group or text and using it as a more broadened term then he can't answer what you want him to. My mind is the Pink Zippo that sits on top of a pack of Camel Wides. |
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"The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." ~ Thomas Jefferson |
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My mind is the Pink Zippo that sits on top of a pack of Camel Wides. |
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