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Old October 31st, 2014, 02:35 PM
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Re: The Book of Tomoe Gozan ~~ Playtesting Phase

I'd like another test with that change.

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Re: The Book of Tomoe Gozan ~~ Playtesting Phase

I also like that change, without it she's too limited on most maps.

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For what it's worth, I don't think the change would have affected my games much.

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Re: The Book of Tomoe Gozan ~~ Playtesting Phase

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I'd like another test with that change.
For what it's worth, I don't think the change would have affected my games much.
It wouldn't have affected Tornado's either, as he never had the chance to use the power. I'm going to PM Ronin and see if he remembers how he played it. I'm coll with another test if it's needed, but I don't see the change having much of an affect, especially since we already raising her cost 10 points.

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Re: The Book of Tomoe Gozan ~~ Playtesting Phase

Here's what Ronin had to say:
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I don't remember her doing a whole lot of moving in my tests, and the summaries back that up. And I don't believe she was ever in a position where she needed to climb, but couldn't. I can't be completely sure, since it's been so long, but I think that change is trivial as far as my tests are concerned.
So, it doesn't look like the change would have much of an affect, if any, on the tests that we have already. Basically, it helps to keep things clear.

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Re: The Book of Tomoe Gozan ~~ Playtesting Phase

So that's me, LP, A3n, and Viegon in favor of the change to Fan Dance. @johnny139 , @SirGalahad , any objections? @quozl , do you still feel the need for another set of tests, even with all the testers saying it wouldn't have affected their games?

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Re: The Book of Tomoe Gozan ~~ Playtesting Phase

Change makes sense and I don't see it affecting her cost either way.

I don't think another test is out of the question if we can get it, but I'd say that regardless of whether or not we'd be altering anything.
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Re: The Book of Tomoe Gozan ~~ Playtesting Phase

I'd like to see another test. I don't like enhancing a power without testing it.

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Re: The Book of Tomoe Gozan ~~ Playtesting Phase

I'm fine with the change

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Re: The Book of Tomoe Gozan ~~ Playtesting Phase

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I'd like to see another test. I don't like enhancing a power without testing it.
Fair enough. I'll put out the call. Can someone update the OP and SP with the following?

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Re: The Book of Tomoe Gozan ~~ Playtesting Phase

ZJ's tests:
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NAME OF THE TEST UNIT (Tomoe Gozan)

- THEME TEST/Pass.

- MIRROR TEST/Pass.

- BONDING TEST/Pass.

- SYNERGIES TEST/Pass.

- POWER CHECK/Pass.

- FUN TEST/Pass.

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/Pass.

- DRAFTING TEST/Pass.

- USAGE TEST/Pass.

- STRATEGY TEST/Pass.
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Army Test 1
- Does she pass? Not sure.
- What should be the unit's point value? It's hard to say from a game like this.
- Give a brief overview. Tomoe killed about 425 points worth, but this is like a perfect game for her.
Unit Sum-up:
Damage:
Normal: killed 2 Hawkmen of Thanagar, 4 wounds to Hawkgirl, and 2 wounds to Atom.
Fan Dance: #.
Engagement Strike: 1 wound to Hawkgirl and killed 1 Hawkman of Thanagar.
Power Usage:
Fan Dance: rolled 2 additional defense dice.
Engagement Strike: gotten 2 out of 2 rolls.
Map: Conflict Chernobyl.
Units: Army 1: Enchantress (380), Tomoe Gozan (170), Atom (50), Red Arrow (150) (750) VS Army 2: Hawkman (225), Hawkgirl (225), Hawkmen of Thanagar x3 (300) (750)
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Army Test 2
- Does she pass? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 180-200.
- Give a brief overview. Tomoe killed 235 points worth.
Unit Sum-up:
Damage:
Normal: killed 7 Inmate and 2 wounds to Zsasz.
Fan Dance: #.
Engagement Strike: killed 1 Inmate and 1 wound to Zsasz.
Power Usage:
Fan Dance: rolled 2 additional defense dice.
Engagement Strike: gotten 2 out of 7 rolls.
Map: Conflict Chernobyl.
Units: Army 1: Hand Ninja x4 (340), Tomoe Gozan (170), Winter Soldier (240) (750) VS Army 2: Hugo Strange (155), Arkham Inmates x4 (240), Creeper (125), Harley Quinn (130), Mister Zsasz (100) (750)
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Army Test 3
- Does she pass? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 170 seems work.
- Give a brief overview. Tomoe didn't quite make up her points in this game.
Unit Sum-up:
Damage:
Normal: 3 wounds to Luke.
Fan Dance: #
Engagement Strike: #
Power Usage:
Fan Dance: rolled 2 additional defense dice.
Engagement Strike: gotten 0 out of 1 rolls.
Map: Conflict Chernobyl.
Units: Army 1: Enchantress (380), Tomoe Gozan (170), Atom (50), Red Arrow (150) (750) VS Army 2: Luke Cage (190), Iron Fist (260), Spider-Man (Miles Morales)(170), Spider-Girl (140) (760)
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Finals Thoughts: 170 seems to work for her points, if she goes up against something like Hawks, she going to be worth more than her points, but anything that can get around Engagement Strike and/or Fan Dance, 170 should be right.

Tomoe was a lot of fun to play.
Not a lot to sway me from 170 (seems like Enchantress had more to do with two of those wins than anything else). Pretty much perfect matchups and some good luck. Still I could see 180. How does everyone else feel? Do we need more tests?

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Re: The Book of Tomoe Gozan ~~ Playtesting Phase

I have a slight preference to see her cost go up to 180, but I'm comfortable with 170. Either way, I think she's ready to move forward once a decision is made.

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Re: The Book of Tomoe Gozan ~~ Playtesting Phase

Anybody else have any thoughts?

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