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Old December 10th, 2010, 01:47 AM
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Re: The Book of Red Tornado - Design phase

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If Red Tornado inflicts at least one wound on a figure this turn, you may place them up to 2 spaces away from their current position if that space is no more than 10 levels higher than Red Tornado's base. A figure moved by Tornado Winds never takes any leaving engagement attacks.

AIR ELEMENTAL FLYING
When Red Tornado starts to fly, if he is engaged he will not take any leaving engagement attacks. For each figure Red Tornado passed over this turn, you may place them up to X spaces away from their current position where X equals 2 for any opponents' figures, and X equals 4 for any friendly figure. A figure moved by Air Elemental Flying cannot be placed on a space that is more than 10 levels higher than Red Tornado's base, and they never take leaving engagement attacks.
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Re: The Book of Red Tornado - Design phase

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TORNADO WINDS
If Red Tornado inflicts at least one wound on a figure this turn, you may place them up to 2 spaces away from their current position if that space is no more than 10 levels higher than Red Tornado's base. A figure moved by Tornado Winds never takes any leaving engagement attacks.

AIR ELEMENTAL FLYING
When Red Tornado starts to fly, if he is engaged he will not take any leaving engagement attacks. For each figure Red Tornado passed over this turn, you may place them up to X spaces away from their current position where X equals 2 for any opponents' figures, and X equals 4 for any friendly figure. A figure moved by Air Elemental Flying cannot be placed on a space that is more than 10 levels higher than Red Tornado's base, and they never take leaving engagement attacks.
Is your intention for him to be able to move a figure with both his normal and special attack or just his Wind Blast normal attack? If it's just for his normal attack then that should be stated as in "with his normal attack". If it's for both attacks, I'm not sure if that also needs to be stated as in "with his normal or special attack" to make that clear or if by leaving it off totally people will just have to do what the card says.

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Re: The Book of Red Tornado - Design phase

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Is your intention for him to be able to move a figure with both his normal and special attack or just his Wind Blast normal attack? If it's just for his normal attack then that should be stated as in "with his normal attack". If it's for both attacks, I'm not sure if that also needs to be stated as in "with his normal or special attack" to make that clear or if by leaving it off totally people will just have to do what the card says.
My intent is for both the normal & the SA. My opinion was that leaving it off they would just do as the card says. I added the "this turn" part to exclude leaving engagement attacks.

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Re: The Book of Red Tornado - Design phase

Okay, cool. I wasn't 100% sure either way about how you intended that to be.




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If Red Tornado inflicts at least one wound on a figure this turn, you may place that figure on any empty space up to 2 spaces away from their current position if that space is no more than 10 levels higher than Red Tornado's base. A figure moved by Tornado Winds never takes any leaving engagement attacks.
I think "that figure" would be more clear and specific than "them" and thought the "any empty space" would be consistent with throwing type powers.



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When Red Tornado starts to fly, if he is engaged he will not take any leaving engagement attacks. For each figure Red Tornado passed over this turn, you may place that figure on any empty space up to X spaces away from their current position where X equals 2 for any opponents' figures, and X equals 4 for any friendly figure. A figure moved by Air Elemental Flying cannot be placed on a space that is more than 10 levels higher than Red Tornado's base, and never takes leaving engagement attacks.
I figured the same change would be needed for this power too. And tried to lessen the text with "never takes" instead of "they never take". Even one work less might help.

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Re: The Book of Red Tornado - Design phase

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Okay, cool. I wasn't 100% sure either way about how you intended that to be.




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If Red Tornado inflicts at least one wound on a figure this turn, you may place that figure on any empty space up to 2 spaces away from their current position if that space is no more than 10 levels higher than Red Tornado's base. A figure moved by Tornado Winds never takes any leaving engagement attacks.
I think "that figure" would be more clear and specific than "them" and thought the "any empty space" would be consistent with throwing type powers.
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Re: The Book of Red Tornado - Design phase

I edited my previous post to add something else. I didn't know you would be so quick to reply.

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Re: The Book of Red Tornado - Design phase

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AIR ELEMENTAL FLYING
When Red Tornado starts to fly, if he is engaged he will not take any leaving engagement attacks. For each figure Red Tornado passed over this turn, you may place them that figure up to X spaces away from their its current position where X equals 2 for any opponents' figures, and X equals 4 for any friendly figure. A figure moved by Air Elemental Flying cannot be placed on a space that is more than 10 levels higher than Red Tornado's base, and they never takes leaving engagement attacks.
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Re: The Book of Red Tornado - Design phase

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AIR ELEMENTAL FLYING
When Red Tornado starts to fly, if he is engaged he will not take any leaving engagement attacks. For each figure Red Tornado passed over this turn, you may place them that figure on any empty space up to X spaces away from their its current position where X equals 2 for any opponents' figures, and X equals 4 for any friendly figure. A figure moved by Air Elemental Flying cannot be placed on a space that is more than 10 levels higher than Red Tornado's base, and they never takes leaving engagement attacks.
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Re: The Book of Red Tornado - Design phase

Thanks guys for working out that "move 2" mechanic. These powers should absolutely be a "placement" power, not a "movement power" that would lead to a TON of confusion.
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Re: The Book of Red Tornado - Design phase

Hmm ... not to continue to pick nits, but are we at all worried about the power level of his moving up to two figures he flies over and then being able to move everyone he attacks?
I suppose it'll be fleshed out in playtesting, but that is a load of moving placing.

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Re: The Book of Red Tornado - Design phase

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Hmm ... not to continue to pick nits, but are we at all worried about the power level of his moving up to two figures he flies over and then being able to move everyone he attacks?
I suppose it'll be fleshed out in playtesting, but that is a load of moving placing.
I agree and that's why I at least had to get A3n on board with the 2 figure cap when he was moved/placed as it would be total chaos otherwise.

He will be powerful and pricey based on that ability to move so many figures in so many ways. Movement as well as both special and normal attacks trigger this "placement". Also, considering his normal attack is 6 and is a flyer, he will be wounding/placing figures quite regularly with a height attack of 7. Perhaps if his attack and defense were reversed 5/6 instead of 6/5 and drop his life a couple?

I'm sure it will get figured out in playtesting, but it would be nicer to get it a little closer before that.

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Re: The Book of Red Tornado - Design phase

I'd kind of like to see it revert back to the special attack causing the blowback effect. It'll make that special attack more special to boot.
Then his normal attack can be more just his fists and what not.

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