Krysto's Half-Bakery: The Future is Now!

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[krysto2002]

Ladies, Gentlemen, and... well you'll see, I unveil to you my newest custom.
Let your eyes gaze upon the might of (you'll find out when you look):

Spoiler Alert!

The Swarm Gruts!! These guys cost more per figure than the average orc squad and being raiders don't get the bonuses of their bonding champions (except Nerak, who enhances ALL orcs). I wanted to try something new, a 5 man squad, which is unheard of. Zombies can move 6 and attack with 3, and Drones can inconsistently get 6 or 9, but these guys consistently get 5 activations, but cost more per figure than the average Blade Grut. To sum up their insanity, they also have a 50/50 chance of wounding friendly figures by accident, so be careful...
As for background:

A guttural scream pierces the tranquility. A deep rumble, like thunder soon follows. The Gryt swarm has been summoned to Valhalla! Far less trained then the more elite Gruts, these highly expendable warriors were known for conquering entire orc clans in the days of old on Grut. Their plan was simple: send wave after wave of their soldiers and overwhelm their foes with a literal flood of soldiers. Gaunt and disease stricken, these are filthy mongrels among other grut orcs. This does not, however, make them any less deadly.

Recommended proxy: Blade Gruts, duh!

[flameslayer93]

I think you should either A) drop the Haze of Madness power or B)lower the die roll.
That power makes them nearly unplayable as they are supposed to swarm the enemies, not themselves!

[Chardar]

They're pretty overpriced. They only have one more attack than the blade gruts and have a negative effect at that. Even with an extra squad member they aren't worth 60. I'd go with 50, that seems pretty balanced with the fifth member and negative effect.

[krysto2002]

Originally Posted by flameslayer93

I think you should either A) drop the Haze of Madness power or B)lower the die roll.
That power makes them nearly unplayable as they are supposed to swarm the enemies, not themselves!

Only the attacking gruts have to roll for HoM, but you guys are right, 50 seems fair, maybe even 45 as they don't get much synergy.

[Chardar]

Keep them at 50. If you drop them down to 45 then there's almost no advantage to taking Blade Gruts over them. You'd basically be making the blade gruts obsolete. Which is not what you want to do.

[krysto2002]

I updated the SGs and had a slight change of heart with their abilities. I really felt bonding did not at all suit them as they are too dangerous to allied figures to allow this. Instead, I put in something BRAND NEW you might or might not like. I can fix this easily so tell me what you think!



Instead of bonding, these guys can do something much worse. They can swarm like nothing else, replacing their horde with additional squad mates.

[Chardar]

Not bad. They're kind of hard to price theoryscape-wise. So you'd have to test them. Essentially you're getting two 5 man squads for the price of one with a slight drawback. So they should be priced about twice as much as the Bald Gruts, at 80. Of course the defense is lower and they don't bond, so taking it down to 70 might not be out of the question. They're definitely more powerful now though. Either way I like them. It's a very neat ability that I don't think has been done before, and very cleanly executed.

[krysto2002]

Originally Posted by Chardar

Not bad. They're kind of hard to price theoryscape-wise. So you'd have to test them. Essentially you're getting two 5 man squads for the price of one with a slight drawback. So they should be priced about twice as much as the Bald Gruts, at 80. Of course the defense is lower and they don't bond, so taking it down to 70 might not be out of the question. They're definitely more powerful now though. Either way I like them. It's a very neat ability that I don't think has been done before, and very cleanly executed.

Sorry if I didn't get this clear, but you don't get a free squad for each one you draft. For each 2 you draft, you can keep 1 off the battlefield. So this essentially allows you to exceed the 24 hex limit, but you must draft an even number and a 500 point game can take only 8 squads for a grand total of 40. 20 on and 20 off the field.
But if I amp them up to 110, your idea would work too.

[flameslayer93]

I like that power krysto. Very useful, but perhaps too useful? Playtesting will tell. I think it's best if you put them in a full starting zone.

[krysto2002]

Originally Posted by flameslayer93

I like that power krysto. Very useful, but perhaps too useful? Playtesting will tell. I think it's best if you put them in a full starting zone.

That's the point here. They don't get synergy like their Blade bros but they DO get greater numbers. So it's a quality/quantity thing.
NOTE: You must draft the orcs to put aside. Not to mention the orcs you put aside don't have to be due to a full starting zone. This gives the orcs a defense against dangerous quick-kill heroes like Zelrig. Even if he nukes your starting zone, you still have reserve squads to fill in. JUST LIKE ORCS SHOULD!

[krysto2002]

Heya to all my loyal fans (kidding):
I would like to request playtesters if possible. I'd do it myself, but I have no-one to play test with but myself. Units I would like playtested (in no particular order):

1. Swarm Gruts (sub in 5 blades per squad)
2. LAVAETHAN (sub in a Fen hydra)
3. DW10K (sub in Q9 or Q10)
4. DW6K (sub in X17 or 7K)
5. Xenocron (sub in Zetacron)

I'd offer +rep, but I don't know if that's fair (since I'm not sure if I'm allowed to) not to mention that my +reps aren't worth much.
But what I CAN do for those who offer playtesters is what I gave FS: A custom unit, dedicated JUST TO YOU (I'll probably include your username to the card!) allowing you to give me any form of inspiration, from unit type, to theme. Or you could just give me a pic and I'll turn it into a custom, even if it's B&W. So please, help a fellow 'scaper out.
Hope you enjoy using my customs.