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Old September 20th, 2019, 03:20 AM
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Re: The Book of Draugr Thrall (Playtesting Phase)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Draugr Thrall

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Army Test 1
Map: Custom
Units:
Draugr Thrall x 3(315), Hela(525) (840)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Shang-Chi(230), Swordsman(160) (840)
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Army Test 2
Map: Custom
Units:
Draugr Thrall x 4(420), Pluto(420), Oracle(110) (950)
vs.
Star-Lord(250), Gamora II(300), Nebula(240), Swordsman(160) (950)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
Love the Thralls and what they offer Hela and Pluto. Hard to say what to do to ensure they aren't too easily defeated, as was the case for me. Having to have Order Markers on their cards is very risky, I recall suggesting at one point having them take turns with a Hell Lord serving as their OM hub, as I was afraid you may be losing turns as-is. Overall though they are fun and serve their purpose as fodder to ultimately make for a more powerful Hell Lord when they show up. 95-105 feels fair based on my experience only.
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Old September 20th, 2019, 07:06 AM
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Re: The Book of Draugr Thrall (Playtesting Phase)

Yeah, they're definitely a risk when you need a full round of OMs on the Thralls to get the double turns. It's an interesting strategic choice to make, but you also risk losing turns at the end of the round bigtime. We'll see how others are feeling about it - thanks for the quick tests.
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Old October 5th, 2019, 12:11 AM
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Re: The Book of Draugr Thrall (Playtesting Phase)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Draugr Thrall @105 points

Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Draugr x4, Pluto (840) vs Wrecking Crew, Skrull Infiltrator x4 (840)
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Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Draugr x4, Hela (945) vs Cyclops (I), Jean, Angel, Blob, Wild Child, Jubilee, Armor (945)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: They feel like they could come down in cost a hair. I don't normally worry about generics being super competitive, but they are the kind of unit that you want to go all-in on if you're drafting them. Real fun to play, though. Love the way they pair with the guys that traffic in souls.
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Re: The Book of Draugr Thrall (Playtesting Phase)

Nice - so you're feeling good about needing to go "all-in" on them with OMs to get the double turns?

Both you and Ark seemed to like them going down a bit and I can see that from my tests, too. I think going down to 95 would probably be enough. That gives you two solid army sizes, too:

Hela + Thrall x5 = 1000 points
Pluto + Thrall x4 = 800 points
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Old October 5th, 2019, 10:12 AM
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Re: The Book of Draugr Thrall (Playtesting Phase)

Yeah I was cool with the OM dynamic. It does make you want at least four of em, but I think I'd want that anyway.

95 sounds good.
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Re: The Book of Draugr Thrall (Playtesting Phase)

pre-yea at 95
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Re: The Book of Draugr Thrall (Playtesting Phase)

They went 1-6 if I’m not mistaken, so a point drop is for sure necessary IMO, and I like those army point values. Pre-yea at 95.
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Re: The Book of Draugr Thrall (Playtesting Phase)

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Re: The Book of Draugr Thrall (Playtesting Phase)

Alright, SP officially updated to 95 and I PROPOSE WE MOVE TO FINAL EDITING!

Also, I may have already asked this, but @Ronin , since you have the figure, Medium 5 is good, right?
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Re: The Book of Draugr Thrall (VOTE for Final Editing)

Just a minor edit.
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LEGION OF THE LOST
After revealing an Order Marker on this card and instead of taking a turn normally with this Draugr Thrall, if all your revealed Order Markers are on the Army Cards of Thralls, you may take a turn with any two Draugr Thralls you control. You may not take a turn with any other figures you control.
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LEGION OF THE LOST
After revealing an Order Marker on this card and instead of taking a turn normally with this Draugr Thrall, if all your revealed Order Markers are on the Army Cards of Thralls, you may take a turn with any two Draugr Thralls you control. You may not take a turn with any other figures you control.
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Re: The Book of Draugr Thrall (VOTE for Final Editing)

Yeah Medium 5 works.
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Re: The Book of Draugr Thrall (VOTE for Final Editing)

Also yea
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