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Old January 13th, 2020, 10:49 AM
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Re: Sports: NFL

Really hope San Fran destroys the Packers.

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Old January 13th, 2020, 11:28 AM
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I hope so too. The potential super bowl matchup of Chiefs vs the 49s would be so fun to watch.

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Old January 15th, 2020, 04:13 PM
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I guess it's because coaches have a tendency to make more extreme game plans, but playoff games often set records for strange things. The Ravens/TItans game was historic in how little the Ravens got out of a lot of offense. Never in NFL history has a team gained as many yards as the Ravens (530) while scoring as few points as they did (12). It's also the second time in history that a team has outgained their opponent by that many yards (230) while being outscored by this much (16), and the other one involved three defensive scores. All in all, that was a very unusual game. That said, I thought the Titans did an incredible job of implementing a game plan and taking advantage of opportunities. I've thought Tannehill is underrated for a while now, just because the Dolphins were so bad.

On that "weird stats in the playoffs" note, I've suggested to others that Henry could very easily break the record for rushing yards in a playoff loss this weekend.

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When's the last time an AFC team other than the Ravens, Steelers Broncos, or Patriots was in the Super Bowl? Seems like we finally have a changing of the guard there.
Fixed. And the answer is 9 years ago, when some team from Pittsburgh made it.

More insane is that the AFC starting QB in the Super Bowl was either Brady, Manning, or Roethlisberger in 15 of the last 16 seasons. It's the end of an era.
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Old January 15th, 2020, 04:21 PM
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Re: Sports: NFL

Who was the other one? Flacco?

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Yep. 8 Brady, 4 Manning, 3 Roethlisberger, 1 Flacco.

By contrast, Wilson and Eli Manning are the only NFC quarterbacks in that stretch to have even made it twice.
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Re: Sports: NFL

Regarding the yards the Ravens got in that game against the Titans, there seemed to be a bunch of garbage yards. The Titans seemed to be playing lose in th second half, where they gave up plenty of yards but toughened up closer to the red zone. It allowed the Titans to eat up the clock even when the Ravens had the ball.

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Regarding the yards the Ravens got in that game against the Titans, there seemed to be a bunch of garbage yards. The Titans seemed to be playing lose in th second half, where they gave up plenty of yards but toughened up closer to the red zone. It allowed the Titans to eat up the clock even when the Ravens had the ball.
Your memory is somewhat (but not completely) clouded. Through the first three quarters, the Ravens drives were the following distances, and ended in the following manners:

Yds Result
44 Interception
20 Downs
2 Punt
59 Field Goal
91 Field Goal
68 Downs
68 Downs
-5 Fumble
39 Interception

The final quarter was certainly not all "garbage time," but you are correct that there was more urgency during it. Those drives were as follows:

83 Touchdown
69 Downs
60 Downs

Drives of the lengths of the first three quarters should have, by any metric, under normal circumstances produced more than 6 points. But that is all they produced, for reasons you can find for yourself in the second column. It is oversimplifying to say that they earned most of their yards while the Titans were "playing loose" in the second half.

Also, what you call "playing loose in the second half" included a play in which Hayden Hurst was running open and just never looked for the ball, though it hit him in the chest between the numbers. And all he would have had to do was fall down to be in the end zone. Surely that was not part of the Titans' plan.

I'm not saying the Ravens did enough to win; obviously they repeatedly shot themselves in the foot. The Titans played well enough to win, and the Ravens did not. But there are a number of false narratives circulating on the internet, and this (that all the Ravens' yards came in garbage time) would be one of them.

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265 yards worth of drives ending on downs. That's amazing.
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Right, but being a Bears fan, I have seen plenty of 3 and out drives. So most of those Ravens drives got them a decent amount of yards but not points. What I meant by loose is that the Ravens could get yardage but not score so much. It happened for various reasons, but still happened and part of how the Ravens got so many yards.


As far as garbage yards, that is term I refer to when a team is getting more aggressive because they are behind. Don't run as much but pass a lot. So sometimes the yardage doesn't reflect the end result of the score or effective play of the team.

The Ravens had a lot more drops than usual. There were other mishaps too. But that happens and usually the scores reflect that.

Heck, the Falcons **** the bed vs the Patriots in that Super Bowl. Seahawks should have run it in with Lynch instead of attempting to pass for the touchdown. Mistakes are costly.

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Re: Sports: NFL

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They had not failed to convert 4th and 1 one time all season. Then they did it twice Saturday night. Their overall conversion rate on 4th was around 70%.

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265 yards worth of drives ending on downs. That's amazing.
They had not failed to convert 4th and 1 one time all season. Then they did it twice Saturday night. Their overall conversion rate on 4th was around 70%.
This game certainly wasn't characteristic of their season. More dropped passes than usual and failing to convert the 4th and 1's hurt. It was a magical season for them and I'm sure the fans appreciate it.

Things go wrong in a playoff game and it can make a huge difference. Philadelphia lost their QB early in the game and it was pretty much a huge hurdle fir them to overcome.

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Re: Sports: NFL

Sorry your Ravens are out, DS. What a historic season for them. I've never seen anything like what the Ravens can do with Lamar Jackson running the offense.

That said, I'm two games away from a weird proposition. Grew up in the Bay Area and still a die hard Niners fan, yet living in Nashville and having adopted the Titans as a rooting interest, I am potentially facing my two top teams facing off for all the marbles. Really looking forward to watching some football this weekend. May lose some friends watching football a couple of weeks from now

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