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Old June 4th, 2011, 10:38 PM
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Just_a_Bill's Jungle Ruins

RotV ruins + some different jungle plants that exactly match Ticalla Jungle + a few other smaller plants for variety + 4-5 different shades of green (dry-brushing, sponging, washing) + clear coat.






I'm thinking about making more sets to sell, and trying to figure out how to price them. Due to the carving of holes through the ruins, several layers of different greens, and multiple clear coats, this takes a surprising number of hours to finish, so I'm thinking something like $20-25 for a set of three ruins (2 large, 1 small). Even then I'm probably working for less than minimum wage. But does that seem reasonable?


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Old June 4th, 2011, 11:09 PM
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I'd say it depends on how durable they are. will they last? will the plant stay on?
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Old June 5th, 2011, 08:29 AM
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Re: Just_a_Bill's Jungle Ruins

Hey- Those look pretty cool. The ruins have always been something of an eyesore because they are just so "vanilla." This fixes it up right nicely. Now you can finally do the wellspring of Ankgor Wat.

I imagine they're pretty durable. The jungle trees are durable enough and these will have glue.

It's hard to price things like this but unfortunately the time invested doesn't translate directly to cashish. You might try fleEbay and see if you get bites. I'd sell them in twos since that's how the Master Set packaged them and how people are used to seeing them. Price them at the smallest amount you'd be willing to take and if it doesn't sell- it doesn't sell. I've kicked myself before for selling things for too little on Ebay.

I've also hit a gold mine where some guy was like, I like this but can you do 10 more?

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Old June 5th, 2011, 09:50 AM
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I'd say it depends on how durable they are. will they last? will the plant stay on?
Should be just as durable as the TJ stuff, since they're assembled in the same way (only mine have a bit more more hot glue since I have a bigger contact footprint to work with than the TJ brush does. Also, since I carefully thread the brush through the holes I carve in the ruins, it's even less likely than the TJ stuff to get bent around and put stress on the glue point.

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It's hard to price things like this but unfortunately the time invested doesn't translate directly to cashish. You might try fleEbay and see if you get bites.
Yep, those are my thoughts as well. Some things just won't sell at a price that makes it work the effort. I think most of us look at customs and go "why buy that? I could do it myself" even though we (at least I) usually don't get around to actually doing it because it's so much work.

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I'd sell them in twos since that's how the Master Set packaged them and how people are used to seeing them.
Problem is I'm short on two-hex ruins (destroyed some on various customs experiments). So if I don't group them in threes I kinda need to group them in ones.


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Old June 5th, 2011, 04:19 PM
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Re: Just_a_Bill's Jungle Ruins

$20 definitely doesn't sound outrageous. If anything, it'd be a good place to start and see what kind of feedback you get. If they fly off the shelves, a few bucks inflation might not hurt, but if they're a slow mover/not moving at all then you'll know what to do.
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Re: Just_a_Bill's Jungle Ruins

Looks Awesome!

See if you can make it in less time - maybe don't put so much layers of paint on the ruins.

I assume when playing, you use the jungle adjacenty defense bonus on the ruins too.
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Old June 6th, 2011, 02:17 PM
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Looks Awesome!
Thanks for the encouragement.

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See if you can make it in less time - maybe don't put so much layers of paint on the ruins.
If I have to reduce the quality, I'll probably lose interest in doing it in the first place. Anybody can just glue two things together and call it a day; my goal with every custom I build is to make it look like it could have come from Hasbro. The only reason to make something for selling, in my mind, is if I'm willing to put in the time to make it nicer or more detailed than the average bear could (or would want to) do himself.

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I assume when playing, you use the jungle adjacenty defense bonus on the ruins too.
We don't, actually, for a few reasons:
(1) Foliage climbing a wall isn't nearly as thick as free-standing brush. You couldn't conceptually press yourself into it to dodge or hide in the same way.
(2) It isn't as bendy or overlapping.
(3) The adjacency rules would get sloppy, trying to figure out exactly which hexes adjacent to the ruin would qualify, not to mention whether the bonus applies on one side or both.

So, for simplicity and reality, no bonus in my house. But others can play it however they like.


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Re: Just_a_Bill's Jungle Ruins

I'd play that using foliage-enhanced ruins makes me irresistible to the ladies.

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I like them. Not sure what someone would pay for them though, I'm pretty bad at gauging that kind of thing.
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Re: Just_a_Bill's Jungle Ruins

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I'm thinking about making more sets to sell, and trying to figure out how to price them. Due to the carving of holes through the ruins, several layers of different greens, and multiple clear coats, this takes a surprising number of hours to finish, so I'm thinking something like $15 or 20 for a set of three ruins (2 large, 1 small). Even then I'm probably working for less than minimum wage. But does that seem reasonable?
It certainly seems reasonable to me. I think they look fantastic and I acknowledge the time and effort you've put into them. I'm not sure how many sets you will sell for that price but I wouldn't dispute the value for the money. In fact I've sent you a pm about possibly buying some.

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Re: Just_a_Bill's Jungle Ruins

Nice! I always am trying to make some decent customs to make SOTM look not as boring, and I lack TJ, so it's a little more difficult for me.

I would be willing to pay $20 for a set of three, seeing ruins aren't that cheap and its custom work. I'm just a poor college student saving up for vacation, Skyrim, and Diablo III, so I doubt I'd actually buy any.
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Awsome ruin mods there! Nicely done.

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