Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread

[JC McMinis]

Originally Posted by Confred

Base stats may certainly change as powers take new forms.

I currently favor:
LIFE 3
Move 5
Range 4
Attack 2
Defense 4

I definitely like this version. Forgive my absence, Im not sure if I said before, but I started a new job a few weeks ago and I was working 60 hours. Now we have slowed down. I think we are close to being done with her powers if everyone likes this newest form.

[Confred]

No art but a sample of what I have so far. Wordy but neat. A true threat.

text:

Spoiler Alert!

DO YOU WANT TO BUILD A SNOWMAN 11
Instead of taking a turn with Elsa, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll an 11 or higher, remove all wound markers from the Army Card of any previously destroyed Snowman and place the Snowman figure on any empty space adjacent to Elsa. Elsa counts any Elemental with the lce Cold special power as a Snowman.

ICE FORTRESS
After taking a turn with Elsa, if no figures are adjacent to her, Elsa may activate Ice Fortress until your next turn. While active, Elsa and all friendly figures on snow or ice within 6 clear sight spaces of her add two automatic shields when rolling defense dice against normal attacks from nonadjacent figures.

SNOW QUEEN
All snow spaces within 3 spaces of Elsa are considered Heavy Snow and all land spaces within 3 spaces of Elsa that aren't lava are considered snow spaces. All water spaces within 3 spaces of Elsa are considered ice spaces. When moving, Elsa may count Heavy Snow and Slippery Ice as 1 space each. When attacking, if the defending figure is on snow or ice, Elsa may roll 1 additional attack die.

Note: SNOW QUEEN is power #3 not #1.

[Zetsubo]

Originally Posted by Confred

No art but a sample of what I have so far. Wordy but neat. A true threat.

text:

Spoiler Alert!

DO YOU WANT TO BUILD A SNOWMAN 11
Instead of taking a turn with Elsa, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll an 11 or higher, remove all wound markers from the Army Card of any previously destroyed Snowman and place the Snowman figure on any empty space adjacent to Elsa. Elsa counts any Elemental with the lce Cold special power as a Snowman.

ICE FORTRESS
After taking a turn with Elsa, if no figures are adjacent to her, Elsa may activate Ice Fortress until your next turn. While active, Elsa and all friendly figures on snow or ice within 6 clear sight spaces of her add two automatic shields when rolling defense dice against normal attacks from nonadjacent figures.

SNOW QUEEN
All snow spaces within 3 spaces of Elsa are considered Heavy Snow and all land spaces within 3 spaces of Elsa that aren't lava are considered snow spaces. All water spaces within 3 spaces of Elsa are considered ice spaces. When moving, Elsa may count Heavy Snow and Slippery Ice as 1 space each. When attacking, if the defending figure is on snow or ice, Elsa may roll 1 additional attack die.

Note: SNOW QUEEN is power #3 not #1.

Seems a bit odd Elsa can protect people up to 6 spaces away but only attack enemies 4 spaces away. I'd lower Ice fortress down to 4 spaces away or put it and range at 5 spaces.

[Confred]

Originally Posted by Zetsubo

Seems a bit odd Elsa can protect people up to 6 spaces away but only attack enemies 4 spaces away. I'd lower Ice fortress down to 4 spaces away or put it and range at 5 spaces.

Good point, but I may not outright agree.
I think her Let It Go castle making scene one of her most iconic aspects and that thing was huge, but from then, her interactions were more localized.

[JC McMinis]

I think we her range and the ice fortress should be the same. I like the idea of it at 5

[Taeblewalker]

I don't post here often anymore but I love the way she turned out!

[McHotcakes]

I agree about splitting the distance. I think we can make her range and Ice Fortress 5.

For Do You Want To Build A Snowman 11 I think we should change the last line from "Elsa counts" to a more matter of fact statement, if that makes sense.

It could read something like "Any Elemental with the Ice Cold special power is considered a Snowman."

And I'm not sure if this was brought up but did we want Ice Fortress to only activate on turns after Elsa didn't attack? I think it would be nice to give the player a strategic choice. Do I attack and lose defense? Or should I skip attacking and bunker down? I think it could work thematically as well, with Elsa either focusing her powers on building or attacking. I'm not sure she should be able to do both simultaneously.

[Confred]

Originally Posted by McHotcakes

I agree about splitting the distance. I think we can make her range and Ice Fortress 5.

For Do You Want To Build A Snowman 11 I think we should change the last line from "Elsa counts" to a more matter of fact statement, if that makes sense.

It could read something like "Any Elemental with the Ice Cold special power is considered a Snowman."

And I'm not sure if this was brought up but did we want Ice Fortress to only activate on turns after Elsa didn't attack? I think it would be nice to give the player a strategic choice. Do I attack and lose defense? Or should I skip attacking and bunker down? I think it could work thematically as well, with Elsa either focusing her powers on building or attacking. I'm not sure she should be able to do both simultaneously.

fair point about attacking and fortressing. She's not a kiter.

ICE FORTRESS
After moving and instead of attacking, if no figures are adjacent to Elsa, she may activate Ice Fortress for the duration of the round. While active, Elsa and all figures within 4 clear sight spaces of her have Move 1 and always add two automatic shields when rolling defense dice against normal attacks from nonadjacent figures.

* ensnares enemies
* Makes sacrificing the turn less harsh because it becomes ongoing
* The fortress becomes more stationary and permanent
* Frees up Elsa OM to use Snowmen.
* Four spaces may be plenty enough.
It may be a bit abstract, but my like for it grows as I think about it. Range may need toggling (more)

[Confred]

Or maybe not. It enables snail pace stalling. I move 1 you move 1. End of round 10 draw. How unfun.

[Confred]

So i haven't seen the movie, so I Youtubed "Elsa all scenes" and this link is to the second video - holy cow Greater Ice Elemental is canon!

YouTube

Edit: Personality clearly isn't Dauntless, from the few new scenes I've seen already, my previous notions of the character are in contempt.

In that battle video above, she indeed special blocks an arrow, but she also does other things...

[JC McMinis]

@Confred have you watched the end of the movie. Her personality there is what I was going for. I originally had caring. The newest draft ice fortress seems clunky. I will churn it over and see if I can stream line it.

[Confred]

I haven't and I can't seem to find it anywhere either