How to scale Statistics in C3G.

[Tornado]

If you are trying to define what that stats mean or effectively what you can do with a given stat perhaps it would be better to simply list the most popular character at any given number.

Or better yet list the figure(s)that best represents that raw stat.
Like Range 10 - Green Arrow.

[ibechief]

Originally Posted by Tornado

If you are trying to define what that stats mean or effectively what you can do with a given stat perhaps it would be better to simply list the most popular character at any given number.

Or better yet list the figure(s)that best represents that raw stat.
Like Range 10 - Green Arrow.

This will be a part of the scale of course. Without a direct reference to an existing design the scale has little meaning. But that is far from enough information if we stop there. Not all archers are created equal. Not all pounders, and not all blasters. So I think it is important to create a reference point, and then to show the behind the scenes numbers that support that reference.

[Hellfire]

Here ya go Chief ... this is the basic scale I was using. Nothing overly complicated here (idt). It wasn't designed with C3G in mind; it was it's own separate entity (while I was creating my own cards from scratch; you see I played one game of Heroscape many years ago [before the Marvel set] and then decided I wanted superheroes and hence the creation; I went to college and forgot about it until getting into C3G; I started using it but decided C3G was enough for me and chose not to focus anymore efforts developing it). However, it may give you some ideas ... idk ... if nothing seems applicable to what you're hoping to accomplish then no worries (just saying there's no need to be PC about it or anything) ... if it helps, it helps.

Spoiler Alert!

Strength (S)

0 Lift less than 50 lbs
1 Lift up to 100 lbs
2 Lift up to 200 lbs
3 Lift up to 400 lbs
4 Lift 800-2000 lbs
5 Lift up to 5 tons
6 Lift up to 10 tons
7 Lift up to 250 tons
8 Lift up to 1000 tons
9 Anything higher than 1000 tons


Combat (C)

0 Elderly; Aunt May
1 Typical Person;
2 Some Training; Dr. octopus
3 Formal Training; Cyclops; Military Personnel
4 Enhanced Ability or Superior Talent; Spidey
5 Extensive Training; Nick Fury
6 Master at Combat; Max Human Ability; Captain America
7 Superhuman Ability; Asgardians
8 Intensive Superhuman Training; Thor
9 Higher Entities

Agility/Reflexes (A)

0 Disabled; Oracle, Prof. X
1 Children, Elderly
2 Minimal Training; Mr. Fantastic?
3 Some Training; Colossus
4 Formal Training; Mockingbird, Hawkeye
5 Superior Talent and Training; Captain America
6 Enhanced Ability/Talent; Spider-Man, Nightcrawler
7 Superhuman Ability; Silver Surfer, Flash
8 Superhuman Ability w/ Training; Celestials
9 Higher Entities

Fitness/Constitution (F)

0 Disabled/Inhibited; Elderly
1 Minimal Endurance; Children
2 Occasional Exercise; Normal Person
3 Moderate Exercise
4 Regular and Intensive Exercise; Daredevil
5 Enhanced Endurance, Captain America, Spider-Man
6 Enahnced Endurance Class 2; She-Hulk
7 Superhuman Fortitude; Thing
8 Immeasurable Endurance; Superman, Hulk
9 Higher Entities


Mental Defense (M)

0 Easily Dominated/Programmed
1 Young; Untrained
2 Typical Person
3 Resistant
4 Experienced in Mind control/defense
5 Trained
6 Focused Willpower
7 Enhanced Willpower with Training
8 Closed to External Powers of Influence
9 Higher Entity

Base Stat Averages

Life = S+C+A+F+M/5 (Event Heroes multiply by 5 and divide by 2)

Move = A+F/2 + 1 for each Spd Rank (Idk where this table is, sorry)

Range = Rng Rank (Sorry, I don't have this table either anymore)

Attack = S+C(Or A; whichever is higher)

Defense = A(or S; whichever is higher)+F+M/3

After initial rank bonuses were applied for special powers (incorporating as many powers as possible into the base stats). From there special powers were applied ... I used a system very similar to heroclix type powers to create a quick uniform system (not as exciting as C3G but it worked at the time).

[ibechief]

Originally Posted by Hellfire

Here ya go Chief ... this is the basic scale I was using. Nothing overly complicated here (idt). It wasn't designed with C3G in mind; it was it's own separate entity (while I was creating my own cards from scratch; you see I played one game of Heroscape many years ago [before the Marvel set] and then decided I wanted superheroes and hence the creation; I went to college and forgot about it until getting into C3G; I started using it but decided C3G was enough for me and chose not to focus anymore efforts developing it). However, it may give you some ideas ... idk ... if nothing seems applicable to what you're hoping to accomplish then no worries (just saying there's no need to be PC about it or anything) ... if it helps, it helps.

Spoiler Alert!

Strength (S)

0 Lift less than 50 lbs
1 Lift up to 100 lbs
2 Lift up to 200 lbs
3 Lift up to 400 lbs
4 Lift 800-2000 lbs
5 Lift up to 5 tons
6 Lift up to 10 tons
7 Lift up to 250 tons
8 Lift up to 1000 tons
9 Anything higher than 1000 tons


Combat (C)

0 Elderly; Aunt May
1 Typical Person;
2 Some Training; Dr. octopus
3 Formal Training; Cyclops; Military Personnel
4 Enhanced Ability or Superior Talent; Spidey
5 Extensive Training; Nick Fury
6 Master at Combat; Max Human Ability; Captain America
7 Superhuman Ability; Asgardians
8 Intensive Superhuman Training; Thor
9 Higher Entities

Agility/Reflexes (A)

0 Disabled; Oracle, Prof. X
1 Children, Elderly
2 Minimal Training; Mr. Fantastic?
3 Some Training; Colossus
4 Formal Training; Mockingbird, Hawkeye
5 Superior Talent and Training; Captain America
6 Enhanced Ability/Talent; Spider-Man, Nightcrawler
7 Superhuman Ability; Silver Surfer, Flash
8 Superhuman Ability w/ Training; Celestials
9 Higher Entities

Fitness/Constitution (F)

0 Disabled/Inhibited; Elderly
1 Minimal Endurance; Children
2 Occasional Exercise; Normal Person
3 Moderate Exercise
4 Regular and Intensive Exercise; Daredevil
5 Enhanced Endurance, Captain America, Spider-Man
6 Enahnced Endurance Class 2; She-Hulk
7 Superhuman Fortitude; Thing
8 Immeasurable Endurance; Superman, Hulk
9 Higher Entities


Mental Defense (M)

0 Easily Dominated/Programmed
1 Young; Untrained
2 Typical Person
3 Resistant
4 Experienced in Mind control/defense
5 Trained
6 Focused Willpower
7 Enhanced Willpower with Training
8 Closed to External Powers of Influence
9 Higher Entity

Base Stat Averages

Life = S+C+A+F+M/5 (Event Heroes multiply by 5 and divide by 2)

Move = A+F/2 + 1 for each Spd Rank (Idk where this table is, sorry)

Range = Rng Rank (Sorry, I don't have this table either anymore)

Attack = S+C(Or A; whichever is higher)

Defense = A(or S; whichever is higher)+F+M/3

After initial rank bonuses were applied for special powers (incorporating as many powers as possible into the base stats). From there special powers were applied ... I used a system very similar to heroclix type powers to create a quick uniform system (not as exciting as C3G but it worked at the time).

This is good stuff. I made lists like this on paper a few weeks ago when I first made this thread and It will be fun to compare the two.