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Old May 28th, 2022, 03:54 PM
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Re: The Book of Upside-down Man - Design

If its going to be shuffled, should we also specify face-down?

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Re: The Book of Upside-down Man - Design

Are we sure that all that text will fit on a card? Looking like it will be right on the edge currently.
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Re: The Book of Upside-down Man - Design

That's a good question. I went in and did a mock up in MSE to see how much room we were using. The below version uses 30 lines, compared to Jotun (classic) coming in at 29 lines. If I eliminate the portion about him "never attacked when leaving an engagement" then that will drop it down to 29 lines. It may impact the font size by doing that (making it bigger).

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NAME = UPSIDE-DOWN MAN
SECRET IDENTITY = n/a

SPECIES = OTHERKIND
UNIQUENESS = EVENT HERO
CLASS = TORMENTOR
PERSONALITY = MALEVOLENT

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 13

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 7
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 705

TRUE MAGIC
Upside-down Man may draft or cast any Spell cards as though he has any Special Powers, Class, or Species listed on the Spell Cards. Upside-down Man never receives wounds from spells he casts. Whenever a Spell Card would be removed from the game, you may shuffle it into his Upside-down Deck face down.

UPSIDEDOWN CRUELTY
Upside-down Man is never attacked when leaving an engagement. Whenever Upside-down Man passes over a wounded figure, you may roll an unblockable attack die against the chosen figure. If you roll a skull, take the top Spell Card from the Upside-down Deck and add it to your army.

LIVING MAGIC
After Upside-down Man casts a spell instead of attacking normally, he may immediately attack with his normal attack one time.

MAGICAL DEFENSE
When Upside-down Man is attacked by an opponent's figure that does not have the Magical Defense special power, the most wounds Upside-down Man can take for this attack is one.

SUPER STRENGTH

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Old May 28th, 2022, 06:39 PM
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Re: The Book of Upside-down Man - Design

Maybe eliminate Magical Defense and add to his Living Magic

LIVING MAGIC
After Upside-down Man casts a spell instead of attacking normally, he may immediately attack with his normal attack one time. When Upside-down Man is attacked by an opponent's figure that does not have the Magical Defense special power, the most wounds Upside-down Man can take for this attack is one.

or if you want to make it even stronger

LIVING MAGIC
After Upside-down Man casts a spell instead of attacking normally, he may immediately attack with his normal attack one time. When Upside-down Man is attacked by an opponent's figure, the most wounds Upside-down Man can take for this attack is one.

And the following change

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Upside-down Man may draft or cast any Spell cards as though he has Magical Defense special power and any Special Powers, Class, or Species listed on the Spell Cards. Upside-down Man never receives wounds from spells he casts. Whenever a Spell Card would be removed from the game, you may shuffle it into his Upside-down Deck face down.

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Old May 28th, 2022, 10:19 PM
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Re: The Book of Upside-down Man - Design

The version in post #39 doesn't look bad to me. Maybe ask for an art check?

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Re: The Book of Upside-down Man - Design

Some minor trimming and rearranging:

TRUE MAGIC
You may draft or cast any Spell cards with Upside-down Man as though he has any Special Powers, Class, or Species listed on them Spell Cards. Upside-down Man never receives wounds from spells he casts. Whenever a Spell Card would be removed from the game, you may shuffle it face down into his Upside-down Deck.

UPSIDEDOWN CRUELTY
Upside-down Man is never attacked when leaving an engagement. Whenever Upside-down Man he passes over a wounded figure, you may roll an unblockable attack die against the chosen figure. If you roll a skull, draw the top Spell Card from the Upside-down Deck and add it to your army.

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After Upside-down Man casts a spell instead of attacking normally, he may immediately attack with his normal attack one time.

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Old May 28th, 2022, 10:25 PM
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Re: The Book of Upside-down Man - Design

Pasteability:

TRUE MAGIC
You may draft or cast Spell cards with Upside-down Man as though he has any Special Powers, Class, or Species listed on them. Upside-down Man never receives wounds from spells he casts. Whenever a Spell Card would be removed from the game, you may shuffle it face down into his Upside-down Deck.

UPSIDEDOWN CRUELTY
Upside-down Man is never attacked when leaving an engagement. Whenever he passes over a wounded figure, you may roll an unblockable attack die against the chosen figure. If you roll a skull, draw the top Spell Card from the Upside-down Deck and add it to your army.

LIVING MAGIC
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Re: The Book of Upside-down Man - Design

Sounds good, I'll drag those edits to the front page.

How do I initiate an Art Check? I didn't see it in the steps for leading a design
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Re: The Book of Upside-down Man - Design

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Sounds good, I'll drag those edits to the front page.

How do I initiate an Art Check? I didn't see it in the steps for leading a design
Soundwarp is signed up for art, PM him and ask him if it looks like it will fit on a card.
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Re: The Book of Upside-down Man - Design

Or tagging and asking usually works as well. For Soundwarp, though, your best bet my be tagging on Discord.

It's not an official step or anything, just something we do sometimes when we're worried about text length.

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Re: The Book of Upside-down Man - Design

the version in the SP fits at 6.5 with a tiny bit of room to spare.


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Re: The Book of Upside-down Man - Design

Though I'd say the current design doesn't really work since with Magical Defense and 14 Life he's already totally unbeatable by a lot of stuff... and then the best play is just to draft like two or three of the healing spell and nothing else. Since then it is effectively impossible to harm him at all for most anything at that point.

I'd strongly consider just letting his first power work as one of those Magical Aptitude type powers instead of having Magical Defense. MD is a super degenerate power that breaks very easily.


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