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Old August 16th, 2022, 11:20 AM
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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

Another of @dok 's creations. I suspect that, sadly, the Melter has consumed the machine gun penguin, which is devoured and dissolved somewhere within the living furnace.

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Old August 16th, 2022, 11:43 AM
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I'm pretty sure that they saw us talking about the filenames and now someone (possibly Encarmine himself) is just trolling us. The last filename had a bunch of random characters on the end.

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The Melter Deathforge...

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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

Wow! Those things look crazy! And I saw a squad!!

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Old August 16th, 2022, 03:45 PM
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I made a flippant comment in the Discord about being really interested to see how a handful of Roman archers are going to be able to stop this new Technodome (today's reveal). While I made the comment in jest, I am a little concerned about some of the new things being full on sci fi war machines. I could believe that knights with swords and bow and arrows can stop robots but when you have literal death machines with metal tentacles rolling across the battlefield, it starts to stretch believability a little too far for me.

Yes I know it's heroscape and believability was always second to fun. I'm glad that's how it is! You always had to check believability at the door when you saw archers taking on machine gun wielding robots. However, while I could believe that a group of Roman's could gain up and overwhelm a robot, I'm not sure I can believe they can overwhelm a tank with sticks and sharp metal objects. I do hope the designers maintain a little discipline in creating something that seems world breaking in the Heroscape universe.

I still want to believe that historical units have a place in Heroscape 2.0.

We were just having this discussion a few days back. It was revealed to me that the lore does state that after the generals summon units to fight for them, they upgraded their preferred weapons with either technology or magic. So some of the pistols, still look like pistols, but fire lasers instead of bullets. Basic Swords and Arrows are turned into magical weapons. The units are summoned for their fighting techniques and skill, rather than their specific weapon profiles. Helped me to have it all make sense in my head.
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We were just having this discussion a few days back. It was revealed to me that the lore does state that after the generals summon units to fight for them, they upgraded their preferred weapons with either technology or magic. So some of the pistols, still look like pistols, but fire lasers instead of bullets. Basic Swords and Arrows are turned into magical weapons. The units are summoned for their fighting techniques and skill, rather than their specific weapon profiles. Helped me to have it all make sense in my head.
I would love to see the original source for this--I'd like to pin it down for my custom philosophy (which includes the idea that there seems to be a mystical "balancing" effect that happens to creatures when they're transported to Valhalla).

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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

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I made a flippant comment in the Discord about being really interested to see how a handful of Roman archers are going to be able to stop this new Technodome (today's reveal). While I made the comment in jest, I am a little concerned about some of the new things being full on sci fi war machines. I could believe that knights with swords and bow and arrows can stop robots but when you have literal death machines with metal tentacles rolling across the battlefield, it starts to stretch believability a little too far for me.

Yes I know it's heroscape and believability was always second to fun. I'm glad that's how it is! You always had to check believability at the door when you saw archers taking on machine gun wielding robots. However, while I could believe that a group of Roman's could gain up and overwhelm a robot, I'm not sure I can believe they can overwhelm a tank with sticks and sharp metal objects. I do hope the designers maintain a little discipline in creating something that seems world breaking in the Heroscape universe.

I still want to believe that historical units have a place in Heroscape 2.0.
Well tbh, this was already the case with classical heroscape as you said. A poor wooden stick threw by a grut could end a giant mech like D9K or Q9. The new faction does suit our current heroscape AFAIK. This was -and is- the beauty of the game, the potential for "suitability" between themes is virtually limitless.

For historical units, Craig confirmed they're still in, so I wouldn't be too scared
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We were just having this discussion a few days back. It was revealed to me that the lore does state that after the generals summon units to fight for them, they upgraded their preferred weapons with either technology or magic. So some of the pistols, still look like pistols, but fire lasers instead of bullets. Basic Swords and Arrows are turned into magical weapons. The units are summoned for their fighting techniques and skill, rather than their specific weapon profiles. Helped me to have it all make sense in my head.
I would love to see the original source for this--I'd like to pin it down for my custom philosophy (which includes the idea that there seems to be a mystical "balancing" effect that happens to creatures when they're transported to Valhalla).

I'll ask those who seemed to know.
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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

Okay, so I'm being told that some of the bios reference getting gifts from their generals and that Drake's sword is magical. So no one place where it spells it out, but it's suggested several times in different bios that units get an upgrade. Also that the Valkyrie have magical blacksmiths and enchanters is somewhere in the lore.
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Okay, so I'm being told that some of the bios reference getting gifts from their generals and that Drake's sword is magical. So no one place where it spells it out, but it's suggested several times in different bios that units get an upgrade. Also that the Valkyrie have magical blacksmiths and enchanters is somewhere in the lore.
Pulled from Agent Carr's bio:

"He usually carries a gun and a long sword, both gifts from Vydar, his Valkyrie General."

If Vydar is giving out gifts, that still appear normal to us, and that Carr is trained with, it's not too big of a stretch to believe that Romans or Knights have also been gifted with the weapons and armour that they are trained with, verses everyone being automatically handed a laser gun as soon as they land in Valhalla.

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For historical units, Craig confirmed they're still in, so I wouldn't be too scared

Still waiting for the preview....

Thus far it looks like more of an emphasis on Steampunk-Type scifi/futuristic.

I am a little worried everyone has been on Valhalla too long and technology creep got in there, rendering all the old weapons obsolete.... Most everyone looks to have oversized Monster Hunter Melee Weapons or lasers and flamethrowers. A drizzle of fantasy with Sonlen, Threetails and Root-Man, but there have been no historical units thus far!

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I definitely echo those hoping for historical units. Part of HS's identity is being able to play pretty much anything you can think of from the real world or fantasy, and theres a plethora of historical figures that would slot so naturally into the game.

That being said, a lot of this concept art does look amazing so I am all in for the original stuff too. Since Craig says historical is in, it looks like things are shaping up nicely.

I am very much hoping we still have classic cards though.
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