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Old February 19th, 2018, 06:51 PM
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Re: C3G Requests for Reevaluation

If we were to drop it from this card, my very strong preference in that case would be to never do another version of the power, ever. No reason to choke the design space for future Sorcerer Supremes by coming up with some crazy new version of the power for a Doctor Strange (II).
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Old February 19th, 2018, 07:18 PM
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Re: C3G Requests for Reevaluation

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And ordinarily, when a card is being designed, I'd be right there with you as to leaving design space open for future possibilities. the problem here is that this is a Finalized design. We are trying to fix and issue that has come up since testing and finalization. You are using a hypothetical to ask us to erase a power off a finalized card. In this case, I really feel that an actual design suggestion is necessary, for me, to condone completely removign an aspect of this card that the original designer wanted. Maybe we need to think more about a fix that makes the power seem Supreme. I think we can all agree that the original power certainly felt that way, to the point of being "not fun." Perhaps we should search for a more fun, Supreme-feeling power instead of settling for the nerfed version we are currently voting on. Honestly, I'd rather the points went up and the power felt right than the points stay the same and we just cut the power.
If this is the direction my very minimal only objection would be that we (the Heroes past and present unified) have gone out of our way to say reevaluation are for minor tweaks.

I don't want this to become "accepted" practice

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old February 19th, 2018, 07:44 PM
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Re: C3G Requests for Reevaluation

My personal preference is still that if the power is kept it should get a rename so it isn't something that future Sorcerer Supremes are obligated to have. That way they aren't stuck with a silly counter-draft power taking up half their text space and this Dr. Strange has a unique identity as the 'haha! counterspell!' Strange.


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Re: C3G Requests for Reevaluation

I hope Magical Defense is the only power a future Strange must have.
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Re: C3G Requests for Reevaluation

B. Drop it. It wasn't even important enough to actually test when it was designed.

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Re: C3G Requests for Reevaluation

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My personal preference is still that if the power is kept it should get a rename so it isn't something that future Sorcerer Supremes are obligated to have. That way they aren't stuck with a silly counter-draft power taking up half their text space and this Dr. Strange has a unique identity as the 'haha! counterspell!' Strange.
The main reason I voted to drop it was the name...It it gets a rename I'm fine with what ever tweaks.

But mostly in with Quozl here.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: C3G Requests for Reevaluation

I can live with A, and if we want to rename it (which I'm cool with), I'd suggest MASTER OF THE MYSTIC ARTS.
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Old February 19th, 2018, 09:28 PM
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Re: C3G Requests for Reevaluation

A and rename sounds good to me.
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I can live with A, and if we want to rename it (which I'm cool with), I'd suggest MASTER OF THE MYSTIC ARTS.
I actually really like this idea because it lets us keep the design close to the original intent, but still leaves that name open for later. Everyone wins.

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Re: C3G Requests for Reevaluation

I think renaming it is dumb. The power is supposed to convey that he's not just a great Sorceror, but that he is the Sorcerer Supreme. AKA, the greatest sorcerer on this plane of existence, which he is. It just feels weird and cheesy. Still, I vote A.

Edit: Not to mention the fact that it's such a clunky, long name. I'd rather it be more concise. Plus, it's his official title. Master of the mystic arts is just an honorific. It's not an actual title that he alone can possess. It's like calling someone Dan! Hat Maker Extraordinaire!

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I think renaming it is dumb. The power is supposed to convey that he's not just a great Sorceror, but that he is the Sorcerer Supreme. AKA, the greatest sorcerer on this plane of existence, which he is. It just feels weird and cheesy. Still, I vote A.

Edit: Not to mention the fact that it's such a clunky, long name. I'd rather it be more concise. Plus, it's his official title. Master of the mystic arts is just an honorific. It's not an actual title that he alone can possess. It's like calling someone Dan! Hat Maker Extraordinaire!
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I think renaming it is dumb. The power is supposed to convey that he's not just a great Sorceror, but that he is the Sorcerer Supreme. AKA, the greatest sorcerer on this plane of existence, which he is. It just feels weird and cheesy. Still, I vote A.

Edit: Not to mention the fact that it's such a clunky, long name. I'd rather it be more concise. Plus, it's his official title. Master of the mystic arts is just an honorific. It's not an actual title that he alone can possess. It's like calling someone Dan! Hat Maker Extraordinaire!
It's not dumb for the exact reason you stated in the post...any power that we added to feel like Sorcerer Supreme would be a huge change to the intent.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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