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Old February 15th, 2018, 03:10 PM
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Re: The Book of Nitro (Public Playtesting)

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Add to Book of C3G Rules:

Markers placed on the battlefield do not affect the battlefield in any way.

Done!
This does not answer the Galactus question, and it's questionable whether it answers the Magma question.
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Old February 15th, 2018, 04:10 PM
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Re: The Book of Nitro (Public Playtesting)

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Add to Book of C3G Rules:

Markers placed on the battlefield do not affect the battlefield in any way.

Done!
This does not answer the Galactus question, and it's questionable whether it answers the Magma question.
Since it doesn't affect it in any way, Galactus eats the space and Nitro can't come back.

Since it doesn't affect it in any way, Magma places the lava tile on that space.

Anyway, it seems the point is moot as many are against this.

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Re: The Book of Nitro (Public Playtesting)

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After reviewing this thread and YK’s test/thoughts it seems like the whole reason we started exploring adjacent attack immunity was because of him dying so soon either before or directly after he goes boom. This happened in my games where he went down to Cable right after exploding and in my second died without ever blasting. The other concern was him giving LEAs. If we numb his Defense to 5 and put a clause in Dispersed so that he can’t make LEAs then the power will basically say: no more turns, no LEAs, and no being attack from range till the next round.
So you're thinking just up the Defense to 5 and go for something like this?

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Old February 15th, 2018, 05:03 PM
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Re: The Book of Nitro (Public Playtesting)

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There is a huge difference between Ronin's last version and this version. If he's on his card he's immune. In Ronin's version he could be attacked by if clear sight wasn't needed. Wasn't the issue his end game immunity or did I go from kind of lost to completely lost here?
This also solves his end game immunity. Once you choose to put Nitro on the card, you no longer have any figures on the battlefield and you lose the game. I like this version becuse it simplifies the whole "No LEAs/turns etc" by using a familiar mechanic.

The only reason I didn't dig quozl's suggestion earlier was its use of another marker. I do think it's extremely easy to remember a single space or the six spaces adjacent to it for just the remainder of a round.
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Old February 15th, 2018, 05:07 PM
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There is a huge difference between Ronin's last version and this version. If he's on his card he's immune. In Ronin's version he could be attacked by if clear sight wasn't needed. Wasn't the issue his end game immunity or did I go from kind of lost to completely lost here?
This also solves his end game immunity. Once you choose to put Nitro on the card, you no longer have any figures on the battlefield and you lose the game. I like this version becuse it simplifies the whole "No LEAs/turns etc" by using a familiar mechanic.

The only reason I didn't dig quozl's suggestion earlier was its use of another marker. I do think it's extremely easy to remember a single space or the six spaces adjacent to it for just the remainder of a round.
Very true on the auto lose thing...

as for the remembering...You are obviously either young or have never suffered suffered a head injury... But I agree with not wanting to add another marker. If you need a memory aid here then use a coin or something with no rules implication.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old February 15th, 2018, 08:38 PM
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Re: The Book of Nitro (Public Playtesting)

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You are obviously either young or have never suffered suffered a head injury...
Guilty as charged :P

Does this work for everyone then? Any other concerns?
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Old February 15th, 2018, 09:24 PM
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Re: The Book of Nitro (Public Playtesting)

any chance it would be thematic that when he is dispersed he can reconstitute further away?

if it is then I say just make it Start Zone.
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Old February 16th, 2018, 08:27 AM
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any chance it would be thematic that when he is dispersed he can reconstitute further away?

if it is then I say just make it Start Zone.
I thought about this. I was just going to say any space on the battlefield, but I can’t remember any instance other than his appearance on Agents of Shield where he travels long distances. Maybe in a comic that I don’t recall?
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Re: The Book of Nitro (Public Playtesting)

Yeah, I feel like he usually reforms pretty close to where he explodes.
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Re: The Book of Nitro (Public Playtesting)

Doesn’t seem like there are any major concerns. I will update the SP once I have access to my computer. @Yodaking ran his latest tests with Nitro being immune to attacks while Dispersed, so maybe just 1 more test or so to finalize this guy.
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Nice work pushing through this LD Lobs!
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Re: The Book of Nitro (Public Playtesting)

Yeah, I'd say one more set of tests to make sure the mechanics are working out as desired and their are not any odd interactions that were not addressed. Then of course to just make sure the points are still a good fit.
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