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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
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Also, have auras been reused? 1-space attack auras, sure, but not wide-reaching things that the Kyrie tend to have. Stacking of effects almost certainly has something to do with that, though that’s less of my concern here. I don’t see death chasers adding in a figure they don’t bond with to get extra defense reduction. I like aura of frailty as written, and I appreciate that it incentivizes you to attack with more dice. If you only land one skull, it’s useless, so swinging with 2 or 3 dice isn’t using it to its best. I’ll let more people chime in but that seems like a good way to move forward here. |
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
@Captain Stupendous
- good point about Tough, also Shields of Valor. I could go either way (Gorillinators & Sentinels of Jandar need the help) as long as its clear in wording without a ruling lookup needed. As the wording suggested (Scytale's or my revision) is it is not that clear. We can worry about how best to word in editing phase so long as we agree on whether it works on Tough and Shields of Valor before or after doubling. It seems more people can live with it than other suggestions (-1D aura or reroll), and again we just need consensus from everyone even if its not your favorite suggestion.
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
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#184
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
I've played Gothlok against Warforged figures and his -1 defense was solidly efficient in making them a good deal weaker. Granted my opponent rolling bad defense rolls helped but that nerf factor was key in me winning.
I like Scy's concept as it is more unique for sure and wouldn't stack to imbalance things. |
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Usefulness isn’t always signature.
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A similar example is DW7k. His signature power is Self-Destruct. His useful power is Stealth Dodge. My customs. NE Ohio Tourney - TBA SW Ohio Tourney - NHSD 550 points AotV - Colliding the minis of AotP with the world of HS. |
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
I've updated the OP here with the proposed Frailty Aura and the rest of the design. Everyone give it a look over and see how it hits you.
We also need a name and a starting point value. I think I had this guy named Atrixus in my initial draft, but demon names are pretty easy to spitball if we want to look at some other options. For points...I dunno, 125? It's hard to estimate how effective Frailty Aura will be. Is it better than Orb of Vengeance? Is Vulnerability Spirit better than Andask's 5 range? Maybe we're looking at closer to 140 or so? |
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
Try 125, Necosoze, Atrizus works for me as well.
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
Compared to Andask. [Atrixus] influences the game after death and his spirit imo is more powerful than Andask's range. Also [Atrixus] has bonding because he is a demon darklord. So I could see him at 140.
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
Is everyone ok with Atrixus as a name and 140 points.
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
No complaints about "Atrixus".
150 points seems high for a 5/6/1/3/3 unit that has to be up in front to get his benefit. It's not unreasonable, though, so it's fine as a starting point. |
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