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I can see why this might seem muddy, but I think we're making it more complicated than it needs to be...it seems pretty clear to me that WTF would not be active if you were attempting to disengage. You've declared that figure to disengage and that in and of itself is declaring movement during the move phase imo. Thematically, the 4th mass is essentially in Hand-to-hand combat with his opponent, turns his back, and tries to run away. While his compatriots may be a little more bold and stand their ground, as part of their squad he has moved [been activated to move] even though he never got away from his opponent.
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Yes, but also a form of movement because the attempt is to move, therefore negating potential WTF.
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My feeling, like I wrote above, is that the intent of the player doesn't matter. If the figure moved, then WTF is gone. If a LEA is triggered on the departing space and not on the arriving space, and several have posted here that that is so, then the figure in question did not actually move. WTF, therefore, is still available. The rules do not invoke a player's intent anywhere, for anything, so far as I can recall. The player's intent is therefore irrelevant. In my book. If no members of the 4th actually moved, then go ahead and WTF. Finally, you can activate a figure without moving it. And triggering a LEA would be such an activation. Therefore, if one dies this way, you may activate only 3 more. That's how I would do it. Interesting discussion. Good question, vegie! Last edited by Dad_Scaper; August 3rd, 2017 at 03:44 PM. Reason: otoh, i pretty much always do what ry says, so take my opinion here with a grain of salt. :) |
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I vote no WTF. Per the segment of rulebook posted above, "a figure that moves out of an engagement..."
The use of the word "move" seems clear to me that the intent to move in the manner above negates WTF. Just my two cents, however. |
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Playing some 1 vs 1 vs 1 next week, with 450 pt/18 fig armies, free for all. It's my 1st time doing this. Do you guys change your strategy with your team build when facing multiple teams?
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3-way fights can quickly turn into a 2-on-1 if one side starts off too strong. Or one player hangs back until the other two are weakened from battling each other - trying to hold out to be last man or woman standing. In some games, we've used a Points Destroyed scoring system to encourage more aggressive combat. All of your units might be destroyed but if you destroyed more than another player - you can still 'win.' |
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I don't think a consequence of "WTF allowed" ruling would be that the disengaged 4th Mass didn't move at all and thus you could activate 5 different members in a turn. The disengage attempt happened during the movement phase; there isn't a separate "disengage if you are immediately moving away from an opponent on your first hex" phase. The question is if during the movement phase the 4th Mass moved.
IMO, WTF should be legal because he never leaves the space. Is there really a difference between "move 0" and not moving? The logic for that difference would probably be that Warforged Soldiers do get their autoshield (added when "rolling defense") against Majestic Fires (which lowers their defense to 0, they can still "roll 0") and do not get it against Paralyzing Stare (which does not allow them to "roll defense"). I am not sure if the same distinction exists for move 0 and not moving. I know "move 0" is frequently cited in FAQs but I think it's used so players understand they can use powers that say "after moving and before attacking" even if they don't move. 10 Years of Gencon/Scapecon Battle Reports - Comic Battle Reports - Probability Calculator App - Reverse the Whip Army Archetypes "It's all about the game." - Sgt. Ernie Calhoun |
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