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C3G Legacy Library This is the archive for all the designs released in the original era of C3G. Feel free to post any figure specific questions in their individual books.

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Old May 20th, 2015, 08:39 AM
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Re: The Book of Havok (Design Phase)

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Re: The Book of Havok (Design Phase)

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Re: The Book of Havok (Design Phase)

Just need a vote from @SirGalahad here.
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Re: The Book of Havok (Design Phase)

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Re: The Book of Havok (Design Phase)

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We already have three new, not-short (text) powers on the card, I'd prefer not to add another. Especially not for minor theme and gameplay. Personally, I would just skip flying, as it's not an iconic power for him, and I don't think the design needs it.
I'm completely cool with that, I actually prefer he not have flying. I was just making a suggestion in case someone really loved the idea of him having flying.

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Re: The Book of Havok (Design Phase)

SP updated for new order of powers. Any builds or combos to watch for here @dok @Soundwarp SG-1 @weebaer @Dysole ?
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Nah. Just standard mutant stuff. Can't really think of ways to abuse any of it outside of it besides Loki giving you another X but that feels way suboptimal. Interestingly, will probably be better in Outcast builds than Prof X builds. All in all, interesting figure but nothing dangerous.

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Re: The Book of Havok (Initial Playtesting)

So what are we thinking for points here? I'm thinking somewhere in the high to mid 200's.
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Re: The Book of Havok (Initial Playtesting)

Probably low-200s, I think. His stats are nothing special for a Mutant, and his powers are useful, but I don't expect them to push him over 250 unless his special attack plays better than I theorize.

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Re: The Book of Havok (Initial Playtesting)

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Probably low-200s, I think. His stats are nothing special for a Mutant, and his powers are useful, but I don't expect them to push him over 250 unless his special attack plays better than I theorize.
Whoa, low 200s? I was thinking more like 130...maybe. His leadership is useful only once per round and is in direct conflict with his charge up since both require X reveal. He is weak enough he will die before he charges his SA up. If he manages to get it off it is for 1 good use, then its back to uninteresting. the 0+,0+ will make it so I will always choose other figures over him, let alone draft this guy over Cyclops or Mystique (other mutant 2nd class leaders).


There are just so many figs with ranged area of effect special attacks that can be used effectively every turn instead of every 6 turns, assuming you are using his X for leadership.

The card seems quite a bit light when comparing it to the comic version of Havok
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Re: The Book of Havok (Initial Playtesting)

I think he should start the game with a couple of the charge up markers already on his card (3?). Then he enters the battle already having prepped for the fight to come but once using up all the markers will have to recharge from nothing.

COSMIC ENERGY ABSORPTION X
Start the game with 3 purple Energy Markers on this card. Before taking a turn with Havok, you may place a purple Energy Marker on this card. At the end of the round, you may reveal an "X" Order Marker on this card to place an Energy Marker on this card. A maximum of 6 Energy Markers may be on this card.
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Re: The Book of Havok (Initial Playtesting)

I think (I don't want to be slapping the LD in the face here..) 3+, 3+ and a max of 3 markers would make me consider drafting him. It is the fact that he is only used for 1.5 decent abilities per round(leadership each round and a blast every 2 rounds), that is assuming all of your order markers are on him or professor X.

I don't know, maybe I am taking crazy pills @dok @Soundwarp SG-1 , @MegaSilver , @IAmBatman @Dysole , Am I causing a fuss over nothing? It has been known to happen in the past...
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