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Old April 28th, 2022, 10:53 AM
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Re: How do you play ladders?

I would assume that means the figures need to be adjacent, not the figure needs to be adjacent to the space (and, honestly, that the wording got a little sloppy there).

I'd be surprised if you could just be adjacent to the space (which, not even sure how that'd be exactly defined) but not adjacent to the figure on that space and still attack that figure with a range 1 attack.

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I would assume that means the figures need to be adjacent, not the figure needs to be adjacent to the space (and, honestly, that the wording got a little sloppy there).

I'd be surprised if you could just be adjacent to the space (which, not even sure how that'd be exactly defined) but not adjacent to the figure on that space and still attack that figure with a range 1 attack.
I guess I’m saying 2 spaces (not talking figures) that are connected to one another no matter the difference in levels are “adjacent”. This is how you count range or figure out how to move from one space to another. You can’t skip spaces. You have to go from one adjacent space to the next.

The better word in-game is probably just “connected” spaces. “Adjacent” has a similar meaning by pure definition but is already defined in HeroScape differently.

So going back to ladders, they just create invisible tiles that are connected to all 6 spaces around them. This allows you to move the same way in the other 5 directions as you do with the space the ladder is connected to.
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Re: How do you play ladders?

Sure. But if that's true, getting to skip a level of elevation for free as you do so is ... super weird. So you don't exactly move in the same way.

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Re: How do you play ladders?

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Sure. But if that's true, getting to skip a level of elevation for free as you do so is ... super weird. So you don't exactly move in the same way.
Yeah, I would rule the free level of elevation only applies to the space the ladder is connected to.

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Re: How do you play ladders?

After Van Ness answered in the other thread, I need to change my answers for ladders.

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Re: How do you play ladders?

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Re: How do you play ladders?

Okay so based on the discussion the correct answers should be...

A. How much movement does Rygarn need to get to the top level 3 swamp hex? - 2

B. How much movement does Rygarn need to get onto the ladder? - 1

C. How much movement does Rygarn need to get to the landing space of the ladder (the level 1 rock hex)? - 2

D. How much movement does Rygarn need to get to the adjacent level 2 swamp hex? - 1

E. How much movement does Rygarn need to get to the adjacent level 2 rock hex? - 1

F. How much movement does Rygarn need to get to the adjacent level 3 rock hex? - 1

Wow...

I'd never have gotten all of those.

So if Rygarn Temporal Jumps, I'm guessing he can move from the ladder upwards...?

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Re: How do you play ladders?

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My answers.
A. 2
B. 1
C. 1
D. 1
E. 1
F. A week ago I would've thought this to be 2 (and that's what I submitted), but @Sherman Davies is right that it is 1.
To be honest, I initially thought the answer to F might be two, but then I caught myself when I realized that if going from the rock space to the ladder rung cost 1 movement, so would the reverse.


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Based on CVN's ruling...I believe that means the correct answers are...

A. 2
B. 1
C. 1
D. 1
E. 1
F. 1
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Simply put:

Ladders create an invisible column of hexes that can be occupied above that ladder's landing space. A figure occupying one of these ladder spaces is on the same space as the landing space (for purposes such as counting range and lateral movement). When on a ladder rung and moving to any adjacent space, a figure may use the top level of the ladder rung they occupy to determine how high they can climb. Similarly, when a figure moves from any adjacent space, that is not on the same level as the landing space, towards a landing space, that figure may instead immediately attach themselves to a rung that touches the level they are on.
This is a pretty good attempt to resolve a lot of these questions with written rules. As this thread shows though, ladders create a lot of situations that can be difficult to clarify with words, which I'm guessing is why the official rules mostly did it with pictures.
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Re: How do you play ladders?

So essentially if a hex has a ladder on one face you can assume that every face surrounding that hex has a ladder? is that over simplistic?

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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So essentially if a hex has a ladder on one face you can assume that every face surrounding that hex has a ladder? is that over simplistic?
That's how I envision it!
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So essentially if a hex has a ladder on one face you can assume that every face surrounding that hex has a ladder? is that over simplistic?
That's how I envision it!
That will make it easier. I have a few neighborhood kids that my son plays with that struggle with some things so this will make it easier for me to explain. Thanks.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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