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No, just remember it being one of the many reckoning/teaching moments of melee being better than he thought. I find it a little interesting that on this latest cast you guys kind of dismiss Raelin with Heavies, when I'm not sure if Heavies win that 'Tron matchup as easily without her. I could give him a call see if he remembers . |
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Digging up your discussion from back in April, I'll just chime in and say that Raelin and other supporting cast units were almost always taken into account when it came to making the original power rankings.
Joe and I would basically put Raelin in all of our [ranged] armies unless we were running Valiant 4th. We didn't really play Knights that often. I might even argue that the ranking of units like Airborne Elite cared about the fact that Deathreavers or other screening units exist. I think I assumed that Sharks in general would be played alongside rats, optimally. Braxas with no screen is garbage. Or how often would Krav be taken without Raelin? etc. Last edited by Jexik; August 22nd, 2020 at 01:07 AM. Reason: added the word ranged... oddly we never really used Raelin with Romans. |
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Casters of Valhalla: THE Competitive HeroScape Podcast!
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"Our mother has been absent ever since we founded Rome; but there's gonna be a party when the wolf comes home." |
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Single common power rankings:
A++ Mezzodemon Warmongers 10 Years of Gencon/Scapecon Battle Reports - Comic Battle Reports - Probability Calculator App - Reverse the Whip Army Archetypes "It's all about the game." - Sgt. Ernie Calhoun |
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For 1x commons, basically all bonding mele gets a boost from the presence of their hero (s) and ranged squads (generally, see Vegies Mezzo example) - for example, 1x 4th Mass is terrible.
Also more survivable units like Sentinels get a boost and low defense units are much worse. Edit: for good uses of 1x & 2x commons, I suggest checking out the pod & toolbox armies that made day 2 of gencon in the past. Some good uses of things like PKs & HSBs. |
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At The Same Time
1 x 4th isn't that bad. It's 4 attacks at range. 1 x Drones or Goblins or zombies is much worse. Anything that wants to swarm should never be splashed like that. I also think that anything that's high variance will struggle as well. Mezzos might be the best among the splash squads but I think PKs, rats, and HSBs are in contention there. (Including VC, Deathwings, Shieldsmiths, and maybe the Mantises and Civil war squads enter the discussion)
~Dysole, who will rarely play 1 x common but has played 2 x common a lot My Twitch Channel where I play Scape and other things My YouTube Channel where the games get uploaded later Dysole's Draft Rankings Map Thread (Not responsible for psychic damage) Customs Battle Reports This sentence is seven words long. This sentence is not seven words long. |
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I agree.
Casters of Valhalla: THE Competitive HeroScape Podcast!
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I was very very close to playing 1x 4th Mass in the Gencon main event in 2015. I think I probably still go 5-0 on day 1 with that (most likely win changing to a loss would actually have been a game against Microcorp Agents), and who knows, maybe I win semis if MBS isn't there to paralyzing stare Kaemon.
It's not exactly good, but if you have them in a situation where they can shoot with impunity, they are better than Marro Warriors in that moment. |
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That's a bit outside my experience. I doubt I ever took 1x commons to a tournament. At my very first tournament I pooled resources to get 6x Mass...
All the reverse the whip talk is way over my head. The one time I came in the middle of this (I forget the year), I played Romans with Valguard and thought that was weak enough. I had to use Cleon's Braxas and 2x Rats in the first round, the other army people thought was too strong for RtW. Last edited by Jexik; August 23rd, 2020 at 02:47 PM. Reason: looked around, it was 2015 |
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