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C3G Legacy Library This is the archive for all the designs released in the original era of C3G. Feel free to post any figure specific questions in their individual books.

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Old January 19th, 2021, 01:50 PM
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Re: The Book of Clayface (Basil Karlo) (II) (Vote 4 Initials

In retrospect I would have minded that being more of a permanent aesthetic for villains - forcing the opponent to roll low vs. the controlling player rolling high. It's a subtle but consistent way to make good guys and bad guys more separate. If we started from scratch I'd probably push for that. I do think it's a break/bend here, but as long as we try to be consistent about it I don't have a problem with it.

Honestly I think that Claymation should be "small or medium" figures over "non-huge" because big boys shouldn't really be getting pulled like that. But Yea either way.
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Old January 19th, 2021, 02:57 PM
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Re: The Book of Clayface (Basil Karlo) (II) (Vote 4 Initials

Having your opponent roll their own fate is a super cool mechanic. Love that.
Another hallmark design for Arkham.
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Old January 19th, 2021, 09:36 PM
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Re: The Book of Clayface (Basil Karlo) (II) (Vote 4 Initials

This passes.

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Clayface (II)

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Army Test 1
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Clayface II(255), Gorilla Grodd II(285), Lex Luthor III(185), Grundy II(355) (1080)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Moon Knight(150), Spider-Man(250), Shang-Chi(230) (1080)
Spoiler Alert!


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Army Test 2
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Clayface II(255), Gorilla Grodd II(285), Lex Luthor III(185), Brainiac(455) (1180)
vs.
Fantastic Four(1000), Jocasta(180) (1180)
Spoiler Alert!


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Army Test 3
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Clayface II(255), Gorilla Grodd II(285), Lex Luthor III(185), Cheetah(275) (1000)
vs.
Cap(240), Winter Soldier II(240), Ms. Marvel(350), Tigra(170) (1000)
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Army Test 4
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Clayface II(255), Joker IV(245), Lex Luthor III(185), Grundy II(355) (1040)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Thing II(340), Spider-Man(250) (1040)
Spoiler Alert!


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Army Test 5 (rematch)
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Clayface II(255), Joker IV(245), Lex Luthor III(185), Grundy II(355) (1040)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Thing II(340), Spider-Man(250) (1040)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
Debut Act is very fun. You can use it to save a friendly from a potential big hit, or use it on a weak hit with the more likely chance that it triggers Claymation. Either way, "surprise, it's Clayface, and you're now stuck" is very useful and fun. He didn't feel too difficult to take out, and Claymation in general was avoided more often than it hit, so he didn't feel too scary. However, subtracting 3(on top of Lex's -1) from the rolls of figures engaged with him when combined with Grundy's Crush and Joker's Pernicious Prankster, can be nasty if the rolls are right. 255 feels good thus far.
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Re: The Book of Clayface (Basil Karlo) (II) (Initial Playtes

Looks good. Pre-yea for testing.

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Re: The Book of Clayface (Basil Karlo) (II) (Initial Playtes

pre-yea
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Re: The Book of Clayface (Basil Karlo) (II) (Vote 4 Public T

I propose a vote to move to Public Playtesting.
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Re: The Book of Clayface (Basil Karlo) (II) (Vote 4 Public T

Yea
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Re: The Book of Clayface (Basil Karlo) (II) (Vote 4 Public T

Looks cool, Yea
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Re: The Book of Clayface (Basil Karlo) (II) (Vote 4 Public T

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Re: The Book of Clayface (Basil Karlo) (II) (Vote 4 Public T

Just watched the animated Hush movie with my son yesterday...There is exactly one of those "Surprise it's Clayface" moments and I instantly thought of this..

YEA

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: The Book of Clayface (Basil Karlo) (II) (Vote 4 Initials

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In retrospect I would have minded that being more of a permanent aesthetic for villains - forcing the opponent to roll low vs. the controlling player rolling high. It's a subtle but consistent way to make good guys and bad guys more separate. If we started from scratch I'd probably push for that.
Sidebar but that's actually pretty cool. It be easier to design Heroes vs Villains. If all the Villains had a subtract x and the Heroes an add X it would naturally make them want to team up with like.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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