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Old October 15th, 2019, 11:17 PM
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Re: The Book of The Chief

It's not a huge deal. More of a consistency thing, I guess.

And, yeah, I've used Xavier's Unique Hero bonding from time to time. Pretty rarely, though.

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Re: The Book of The Chief

Yeah I think the consistency thing is a valid point.

If we were to make a nerf to that power, would we want to;
A) Give it a 10 space requirement exactly like Xavier?
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Re: The Book of The Chief

If we have to do one, I'd rather cut the Unique Hero bonding. I like him having unlimited range, since he's a schemey schemer guy.


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Nobody, what was the thinking behind his bonding with a single Unique Hero? How does that play out thematically?
I mean the big reason is that I like him playing similarly to Xavier. I think it's thematically justifiable (he has a supernaturally good silver tongue where he can basically talk anybody into doing anything) and it allows the Patrol to work just a little better with other factions like the Titans, who they have some decently strong ties to. But if we're not feeling it, I'll cut it. I don't know if I've ever used that option on Xavier anyways.
Well if we want to have him play similarly to Xavier, should we consider putting a range of effectiveness on him?

I guess the thing I'm feeling is that I'm OK with him doing what Xavier does as well as Xavier does it for his own faction, or doing something just for his own faction better than Xavier does it for his, but not doing all the leadership stuff Xavier does better than Xavier does.

Does that make sense?
To be fair, Troubled is never going to be as useful or strong a synergy web as the Mutants are, so I'm okay with it as-is if it's thematic. He's still not going to have Xavier's metagame impact, plus he can't protect anyone with Psychic Defence X. If it's thematic for him to activate a random hero, I'm fine with it - I was just questioning whether it was thematic or a hold-over from Xavier. Plus, I've never used that option on Xavier, but I could kind of see using it here, at least until the Doom Patrol gets bolstered with more members - being able to activate a reservist you've got with your excess points could be useful.


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Re: The Book of The Chief

I like the power as is, and honestly forgot that Professor X can activate any Hero, I would be interested in a limited range potentially if we feel that he is coming in too high.

Also can we update the title here to show what phase it is in?
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I like the power as is, and honestly forgot that Professor X can activate any Hero, I would be interested in a limited range potentially if we feel that he is coming in too high.
My question then would be thematic justification. Fury and Waller use communications tech and have unlimited command range... why is this guy different?


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I like the power as is, and honestly forgot that Professor X can activate any Hero, I would be interested in a limited range potentially if we feel that he is coming in too high.
My question then would be thematic justification. Fury and Waller use communications tech and have unlimited command range... why is this guy different?
I don't know the character well, but just from first glance it looks like he doesn't have the connections/resources/tech/general pull that Fury and Waller have. Doom Patrol seems rather hobo-ish rather than a superbly advanced government agency.
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We could use markers.

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Re: The Book of The Chief

Thematically, no range makes the most sense. He’s a fairly rich supergenius who can build robots, world-destroying doomsday machines, and temporarily turn himself into a Kryptonian, so there’s no way walkie-talkies are above his level.

But this is also a game where Ultron can only transfer his program to figures who are like 10 feet away, so I think it’s totally fine to bend the thematics a bit and limit the range if it helps the gameplay feel a bit more dynamic/balanced.

Not sure what you mean about markers, Quozl.
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Re: The Book of The Chief

Like you get a number of markers and put them on Troubled Heroes then can only take turns (or manipulate) figures you control with markers on their cards.

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Re: The Book of The Chief

I feel like that would either be so few markers that it severely limits the potential of a larger Doom Patrol army, or so many markers that it’s effectively meaningless.
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Re: The Book of The Chief

I think I'd lean towards the 10 space restriction. Waller can maintain her influence without range restriction, but that's with her forces always risking turning on her. Fury can do it without range restriction, but he's more of an offensive figure, so I feel like there's more motivation to keep him in the fight.

I think for gameplay reasons it makes sense to want Chief to not be too too far out of the fight. It keeps things more dynamic, makes his defensive power matter more, portrays him as handi-capable , and makes him more strategically interesting on big maps.

I think theme could easily be translated either way. With how the power is structured, though, Prof X. is easily the closest precedent, so I like aligning with that precedent on restrictions as well.

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