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Re: Spellbook of Lord of the Flies (Initial PT)

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Re: Spellbook of Lord of the Flies (Initial PT)

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NAME OF THE TEST UNIT (Lord of the Flies Spell)
Army Test 1
- Give a brief preview. After decades of betrayal by humans, Nemisis is able to recruit Blade into his war on them. The extra move Blade gets should make it easier for him to close the distance on the Archers and then use his pass though for unblockables power. He'll also give Blade some cover by sending Flies to harass them. The humans have their own plans though, having recruited a Cybertronian ally to help them deal with this threat from outer space.
Map: Swamp Cabin & Dock Custom Map
Units: Nemisis, Lord of the Flies Spell, Hellfire: Fireball Spell, Hellfire: Ignition Spell, Blade (500) vs. Green Arrow, Red Arrow, Bumblebee (500)
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Recap: R1, Bee gave Red Arrow a lift and set him up, so when GA moved up he shot at Blade. Then Bee ran into Blade, Blade fought Bee. R2, Nemesis wins initiative, but that means GA is still too far away for the Flies spell, so he moves closer to RA while using his Ignition Spell on Bee, rolls 5 skulls!, but Bee rolls 3 shileds to hang on with 1 life left. Bee then runs over both Blade & Nemesis. Blade takes down Bee while moving up to even ground with RA. GA shoots Blade while RA shoots Nemesis. Nemesis steps to RA, gets 5 skulls with his sword, 3W! RA lays down a furious assault. R3, GA wins initiative, but fails to take out Nemesis (who only had 1 life left), Nemesis cast the Flies spell on GA instead of moving, then uses his sword on RA, dead. GA runs and jumps into some swamp water to rid himself of the flies, shoots at Nemesis again to no effect. Blade moves up & att. GA from HG, dead.
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes, I thought the spell was fun even if by the time I could use it only one archer was not engaged. Giving up your move meant I could still att on that turn if I was already engaged with someone.
- What should be the unit's point value? I cast two different 10 point spells in this game, of the two I think Hellfire: Ignition was the scarier one. But I ended up getting 5 skulls with it and didn't have to roll for self inflicted damage. The Flies spell would have been a little scarier had I not had some water to jump into as well, so I guess 10 points is still maybe the right spot since other maps won't be so forgiving and other uses of the Hellfire spell won't be so successful.
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Army Test 2
- Give a brief preview. This time Nemesis has found an ally on his war on humanity out among the stars. Lobo is really just agreed to join because he has a warrant for Gorgon, who is being protected by a pair of humans who say Gorgon will face justice in their own courts. Nemesis will use some flies to keep the Archers busy, while Lobo tries to collect.
Map: Swamp Cabin & Dock Custom Map
Units: Nemesis, Lord of the Flies Spell, Hellfire: Fireball Spell, Hellfire: Ignition Spell, Lobo (600) vs. Hawkeye II, Hawkeye (Kate), Gorgon (600)
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Recap: R1, After Kate moves up twice, she shoots at Nemesis to no effect, Nemesis (have learned from the last game where he was too far back to start R2) moves up for a 2nd time, he unleashed the Hellfire:Ignition spell on Kate, and rolls 0 skulls. Both Hawkeye's att. Nemesis, first shot pins, 2nd scores 1W. R2, nemesis wins initiative, cast Flies on both Hawkeyes, in range to att Kate, blocked. Hawkeye gives Gorgon a lift, then orders him to att Nemesis, 1W. Nemesis circles around Gorgon so he can also engage Clint & att with his sword and scores a W. Kate has to jump into the water to shoot, shoots a Nemesis from LG to no effect. Lobo moves up, hooks Gorgon pulling him away from Nemesis & att for 1W. Gorgon uses his SA on Lobo for 1W. R3, Hawkeye wins initiative, Kate no longer has to deal with the Flies but she's still on LG to everyone as a result of them, Kate att Nemesis and pins him for Hawkeye, Hawkeye moves to HG without disengaging or flying, still gets blocked. Lobo att Gorgon for 1W. Kate gets out of the water & scores 2W on Lobo. Nemesis hits Clint for 1W. Gorgon uses his SA on Lobo for 2W. Lobo heals & hits Gorgon for 1W. R4, both team roll a 20, Gorgon wins the tie breaker roll, uses his SA on Lobo, just 1W which he heals right away when Lobo att Gorgon, taking a W from pre-cog! Kate grabs HG on Lobo and tries to finish him off, no luck. Lobo heals and att again, 1W (Gorgons def has been outstanding!). Kate gets another 2 shots in on Lobo, 2W, so close. Clint blocks Nemesis, his def has been great too. R5, Lobo wins initiative, att Gorgon, who survives due to a pre-cog roll of 12 exactly! Gorgon then uses his SA and only rolls 2 skulls, blocked. Nemesis finally kills Clint. Kate takes out Lobo, Nemesis engages Kate so he can use his sword, rolls 1 blank & 3 shield, but that's enough for 2W! Kate takes 1W from a LEA, but gains HG at range on Nemesis, 1W & 1W! R6, tie on initiative again with a pair of 4's, Kate wins the tie breaker, takes down Nemesis on the 2nd shot from HG!
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes, this was a real fun game and the Flies spell played an important part.
- What should be the unit's point value? What a difference a game makes, in this one the Ignition spell fails to generate a single skull and was worthless, while the Flies spell had a huge impact and was pretty awesome. 10 points seems pretty on point, it prevented Kate from getting in a free att when Clint took a turn, then forced her to jump into a lake and fire off 3 shots from LG instead of gaining HG on Lobo for those same shots, before she could get back up to at least even ground. Fun spell! Game came down to a couple of d20 rolls one way or the other. Gorgon would have fallen to Lobo had it not been for his pre-cog power kicking in at the right time, then Nemesis would have take out Kate had he won initiative instead of it being the other way around. So game felt pretty balanced.


Army Test 3
- Give a brief preview. Constantine finds himself backed into a corner, he has to help some criminal types escape justice long enough for him to learn the truth about a demonic artifact they stole out of a museum. He'll play his part by sending some of the swamps' flies out to annoy the one they call the Punisher. Star-Lord also want to know where he can find that artifact and has brought his new pet robot eagle to help him find it. Punsiher tagged along just because he liked to punish criminals for their crimes.
Map: Swamp Cabin & Dock Custom Map
Units: John Constantine, Lord of the Flies Spell, Poison Ivy I, Killer Croc, Weather Wizard (600) vs. Punisher, Star-Lord, Laserbeak (600)
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Recap: R1, move out. R2, WW hits Laserbeak with a bolt of lightening, Punisher unloads on Kiler Croc from HG. R3, Croc engages Punisher and starts punching him. Punisher punches back. Croc gets in a kick. Croc goes down, WW gets shot, the Fog rolls in. Punisher and Star-Lord get strangled by some vines, Starlord can't get a shot off through the Fog. R4, John wins initiative & sends some flies to torment the Punisher. Punisher opts to leave HG and engage WW, entangling vines prevents him from moving any closer but he's already engaged, a mistake on my part here, he kills WW, OM2 lost. Laserbeak flies over next to SL and shoots Ivy from HG, 5W on 5 skulls!!!! Ivy fails to seduce Frank even with John's help, retreats back by John. Laserbeak flies forward and takes out Ivy. R5-R7, Punisher struggles to even attack John, and when he does he whiffs, while John struggles to deal with Laserbeak backed up by SL. Eventually John takes out Laserbeak, then Punisher finally puts down John.
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes, worked fine here with the exception of my own poor positioning of Ivy & WW.
- What should be the unit's point value? 10 seems okay, even though I screwed up the Ivy portion of the defensive layer and knew I wouldn't be getting an att out of John when I cast it, it was really nice to deny Punisher his 6/5/4 att option and force him to come down off HG if he wanted to attack at all. Some poor dice rolling certainly played a factor into the one sided outcome in this one.

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Re: Spellbook of Lord of the Flies (Initial PT)

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Re: Spellbook of Lord of the Flies(Vote4PPT)

This passes.
Could someone post this for me in the playtesting? Thanks.
I seem to be unable to connect my laptop to my hotel internet.
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