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C3G Legacy Library This is the archive for all the designs released in the original era of C3G. Feel free to post any figure specific questions in their individual books.


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Re: The Book of Black Bolt (II) - VOTE for Initial

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Re: The Book of Black Bolt (II) - VOTE for Initial

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Re: The Book of Black Bolt (II) - VOTE for Initial

This passes.

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Re: The Book of Black Bolt (II) - Initial Playtesting

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Black Bolt II

Version tested:
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Army Test
Map: Turtle Training Dojo
Units: 1200pts – Black Bolt 330, Iron Man 270, Namor 280, Dr Strange 320 VS 1200 pts – Thor 430, Beta Ray Bill 420, Valkyrie 350
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Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: 1000 pts – Black Bolt 330, Iron Man 270, Black Panther 210, Professor X 190 VS 1000 pts – Luke Cage 190, The Thing II 340, Jessica Jones 220, Spider-Man 250
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Army Test
Map: City Park
Units: 1000 pts – Iron Man 270, Black Bolt 330, Beast 200, Reed Richards 200 VS 1000 pts – Grim Reaper 260, Klaw 240, Wizard 140, Wonder Man 360
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GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Black Bolt went 0-3 in my games. I think he's currently designed to work best when all the Illuminati are together. He can get help with all the different members of the group. With bits and pieces it makes him a little harder to get full value out of. In game one and three I didn't get to use Mortal Blow, which can happen. He's the biggest attacker on the team and usually get targeted by the opponents big gun. In both those games he was killed before he could ever fire it off. That's okay though and is very similar to Human Torch's Supernova SA, sometimes there just isn't need or opportunity to use it. But in Torch's case you don't have any restrictions about when you can use it and it's also a very big attack except it doesn't kill Johnny. Black Bolt's second power, his special attack, can be really strong but again you have a limitation on when you can use it. I did fire it off in games 1 and 2 but only once each. You need to have either an Order Marker on Black Bolt at the right time, or have Black Panther and win Initiative or have Reed on your team to move a marker to Black Bolt at the right time to trigger the SA. It's a great power but challenging to use. If he had some type of marker to add to his card once an ally died that he could burn to use his SA it might be better or certainly will make it easier to use if a ally dies at the end of a round. Currently if that happens you're out of luck. Something else for Mortal Blow to allow you to fire it off easier would help it too. Maybe the ability to use it at the end of the round? Maybe something like this:

MASTER BLOW
If Black Bolt takes enough wounds to be destroyed you may instead place wounds until he has 1 life remaining. If you do so, at the end of that round he may roll up to a total of 4 unblockable attack dice targeting opponent's figures within 2 spaces of Black Bolt. Destroy Black Bolt after using this power.

I think something like that could work, or a tweak of that anyways.

Black Bolt is a good design but in my opinion, isn't quite there yet to work reliably for 330 points. His free movement was great but the lack of 2 out of 3 powers being consistent, he was mostly just a normal melee attacker who can be awesome but only in really specific situations. My recommendation is a rework of at least one of the 2 powers to make them more accessible.
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Re: The Book of Black Bolt (II) - Initial Playtesting

Was away for a bit, but finally getting around to saying thanks for the playtests and feedback!

Talked about it with Ericth and Bats. I'm happy with Master Blow so far, and we came up with this for the Special Attack, since that was the most difficult to set up.

Always available once per round, but no longer requires a friendly to have been destroyed. It'll be stronger if a figure was destroyed, but with a not-too-swingy difference of two extra dice.

BROKEN SILENCE SPECIAL ATTACK
Range Special. Attack Special.
Choose 3 spaces in a straight line from Black Bolt. All figures on the chosen spaces, and all figures other than Black Bolt within 1 space of the chosen spaces, are affected by this special attack. Roll 6 attack dice once for all affected figures, or 8 attack dice if a friendly Unique Hero was destroyed this round. Each figure rolls defense dice separately. You may only use this special attack once per round, and only if a friendly Unique Hero has been destroyed this round.
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Re: The Book of Black Bolt (II) - Initial Playtesting

I like it.
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Re: The Book of Black Bolt (II) - Initial Playtesting

I propose a vote to move to Public Playtesting.
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Re: The Book of Black Bolt (II) - VOTE for Playtesting

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Re: The Book of Black Bolt (II) - VOTE for Playtesting

Yea. No tags needed until vote for release. This just needs any 5 Heroes or Legends.

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Re: The Book of Black Bolt (II) - VOTE for Playtesting

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Re: The Book of Black Bolt (II) - VOTE for Playtesting

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