Iron Clubber's Customs

[Iron Clubber]

Hi everyone,

Wanted to finally start a customs thread where I will be adding and removing customs periodically and feedback is most certainly welcome.

I'd like to start with Athanasiois the Fire Elementalist, who I am hoping to submit to the Pre-Sov Workshop once I've played around with him a bit more. Athan will hopefully add more variety to elemental armies, having low survivability, and no synergy, but a unique power that allows him to sling shot Fire Elementals onto high ground or allow them to quickly grab glyphs. I had him originally at a lower point cost but proved VERY good (unfairly??) at grabbing glyphs given his high launching range.

Athanasiois

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Athanasiois vs Kurok
Obviously while designing Athan I wanted to keep him a reasonable option without completely overpowering Heroscape's original Elementalist. Athan has a higher probability to revive, a higher base attack, and his own offense kick with the auto-wound special. In comparison, Kurok has higher surivability, more versatility in elementals, and synergy. I think that depending on your build, you can make the argument of one over the other fairly convincingly.

Athanasiois & Kurok
An interesting team up found in playtesting was to use Athan to catapult Fire Elementals into a position to take advantage of Kuroks synergy on the next marker. The strategy may be too slow to be competitively effective, but it was a fun match.

Euronotus

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Very much a diamond in the rough.

[Heroscaper 101]

Nice custom you made on this thread.

[flameslayer93]

Really cool custom Iron Clubber! I like how you created a unique fireball chucking unit!

For SoV purposes, I’m not sure that this custom really belongs there. Ranged autowounds, synergy with a fairly expensive figure, and the somewhat close ties to Kurrok could tie him up but I’d be happy to be wrong. Good luck!

[Heroscaper 101]

That looks like a pyromancer not a sorcerer, plus you do have fire power.

[Iron Clubber]

Athanasiois Update
(See original post for new card)

After completing numerous playtests, Athan has been dialed down quite a bit. He never performed overly well, but his potential for board control simply didn't seem right. As suggested by Astro in 3FG the revival has been moved to after his attack and has been made less potent (15 or more). His range for "Fire Manipulation" has been reduced from 7 to 5, and may be dropped further to 4 after some more tests. Athans previous version could potentially allow an elemental to be moved 14 spaces, which I can't believe I thought was sensible .

Athans auto wound has been reduced from 2 to 1. Originally the 2 was to threaten heros but being a squad sweeper that can immediately "steal" a strategic space isn't so bad.

In light of these changes, Athans cost was decreased from 150 to 140, but I am heavily considering dropping the cost further.

Any thoughts on the new incarnation of Athanasiois?

[Iron Clubber]

With the newest version of Athan, I ran a test with the following armies in 5 matches over the last few weeks;

The map was a generic map with the majority of elevation in the center.

Team 1: Athan, Fire Elemental x5, Zombies x2, Tarn Vikings - 485 Pts.

Team 2: Marro Hive, Ne-Gok-Sa, Marro Stingers x4 - 490 Pts.

I played as Team 1 in each game, and to my surprise, I lost all 5. I tried tying up the middle with the Zombies first and then using Fire Manipulation to pick off Stingers, but the Zombies didn't last long, and once Athan came under siege my opponent made short work.

Next I tried to launch Fire elements on the elevation, and then maneuver Athan in the backline to pick off Stingers that tried to ascend, but the dreaded Marro forces ignored the Elements and went right for the source.

There is potential here for a usable and powerful unit I just know it lol. He is very tricky to use, but these games have all been very fun.

[Iron Clubber]

Match 1:Athan + 5 Fire Elems vs Marro Stinger x4 (240 Points)
Stinger Destroys Fire Elem
Athan Destroys Stinger with FM
Stinger Self-Destruct
Athan Destroys Stinger with FM
Athan Destroys Stinger with FM
Stinger Self-Destruct
Athan Destroys Stinger with FM
Stinger Destroys Fire Elem
Athan Destroys Stinger
Stinger Destroys Athan
Stinger Destroys Fire Elem
Fire Elem Destroys Stinger with Searing Intensity
Stinger Destroys Fire Elem
Fire Elem Destroys Stinger with Searing Intensity
Stinger Destroys Fire Elem

Stingers win with One Full Squad Remaining (60 Points)
Athan Destroyed 5 Stingers (100 Points) And Launched Fire Elems onto height


Match 2:Athan + 5 Fire Elems vs Syvarris + 10th Regiment x2 (250 Points)
10th Destroys Fire Elem
Athan Destroys 10th with Fire Manipulation
10th Destroys Fire Elem
10th Inflicts Two Wounds (2) on Athan
10th Inflicts One Wound (1) on Athan
Athan Destroys 10th with Fire Manipulation
10th Destroys Fire Elem
Athan Destroys 10th with Fire Manipulation
Athan Revives Fire Elem
10th Destroys Fire Elem
Athan Destroys 10th with Fire Manipulation
10th Destroys Fire Elem
Athan Destroys 10th with Fire Manipulation
Athan Destroys 10th with Fire Manipulation
Syvarris Destroys Fire Elem
Athan Destroys 10th
Syvarris Detroys Athan

Ranged Riot win with Full Life Syvarris and One (1) 10th Remaining (118.75 Points)
Athan Destoyed Eight ( 10th (150 Points) And Launched Fire Elems onto height


Match 3:Athan + 5 Fire Elems vs Kaeman Awa + Tagawa Samurai + Izumi Samurai (300 Points)
Kaemon Awa Inflicts One (1) wound on Athan
Athan Inflicts One (1) Wound on Kaemon Awa with Fire Manipulation
Kaemon Awa Inflicts One (1) wound on Athan
Athan Inflicts One (1) Wound on Kaemon Awa with Fire Manipulation
Kaemon Awa Inflicts Two (2) wounds on Athan, Anthan Destroyed
Fire Elem Inflicts One (1) wound on Kaemon Awa with Searing Intensity
Kaemon Awa Destroys Fire Elem
Fire Elem Inflicts One (1) wound on Kaemon Awa, Awa Destroyed
Fire Elem Destroys Tagawa Samurai with Searing Intensity
Tagawa Samurai Destroys Fire Elem
Tagawa Samurai Destroys Fire Elem

Samurai Clan win with Two (2) Tagawa and All (3) Izumi Remaining (140 Points)
Athan Inflicted Two Wounds on Awa, and destroyed Two (2) Fire Elems (-10 Points)


Match 4 REMATCH: Athan + 5 Fire Elems vs Marro Stinger x4 (240 Points)
Athan Destroys Stinger with FM
Stinger Destroys Fire Elem
Stinger Inflicts One (1) wound on Athan
Stinger Inflicts One (1) wound on Athan
Athan Destroys Stinger with FM
Stinger Destroys Fire Elem
Stinger Destroys Athan
Stinger Destroys Fire Elem
Fire Elem Destroys Stinger with SI
Stinger Self-Destruct
Fire Elem Destroys Stinger
Stinger Destroys Fire Elem

Stingers win with Two (2) Full Squads and One (1) Stinger (140 Points)
Anthan Destroyed Two (2) Stingers (40 Points)

[Iron Clubber]

Athanasiois Update

A few changes here:

1. Attack has been reduced to 3. The Attack didn't seem thematic in Match 2 when Athan could completely over power 10th members hand-to-hand. It seems more fitting that if you get past his fire special he isn't that much of an offensive threat.

2. Defense has been increased to 4. His survivability was just way too low. If any amount of order markers are on Athan, the opponent immediately targets him.

3. Point cost has been reduced to 90. This still feels low given Athans board control potential, but ultimately he has failed to find any amount of success on the board to date. I will test at this cost and see if games will be a little more even.

[Iron Clubber]

Match 1: Anthan + 5 Fire Elems + Eldgrim vs Banshees x4 (280 Points)
Banshee Destroys Fire Elem with Piercing Scream
Athan destroys Banshee with Fire Manipulation
Banshee Inflicts One (1) Wound on Athan
Banshee Destroys Fire Elem with Piercing Scream
Athan Destroys Banshee with Fire Manipulation
Banshee Inflicts Two (2) Wound on Athan
Banshee Destroys Fire Elem with Piercing Scream
Athan Destroys Banshee with Fire Manipulation
Banshee Destroys Athan
Banshee Destroys Fire Elem with Piercing Scream
Fire Elem Destroys Banshee
Banshee Inflicts One (1) Wound on Eldgrim
Banshee Destroys Fire Elem with Piercing Scream
Eldgrim Destroys Banshee
Banshee Destroys Eldgrim

Banshee win with One (1) Full Squad and One (1) Banshee (105 Points)
Athan destroyed Three (3) Banshee (105 Points)

Match 2: Athan + 3 Fire Elems + Syvarris + 10th x2 vs Q10 + Krav + Microcorp x2 (450 Points)
10th Destroys Microcorp
Microcorp Destroys 10th
Microcorp Destroys 10th
Microcorp Destroys 10th
Athan Destroys Microcorp with Fire Manipulation
Microcorp Inflicts Two (2) Wounds on Athan
Athan Self-Destructs Fire Elem (failed Fire Manipulation)
Micropcorp Destroys Athan
Krav Destroys 10th
Microcorp destroys 10th
Microcorp destroys Fire Elem
Microcorp destroys 10th
10th Destroys Microcorp
Microcorp destroys 10th
Syvarris Destroys Microcorp
Krav Destroys 10th
Syvarris Destroys Microcorp
Krav Inflict Two (2) Wounds on Syvarris
Syvarris Destroys Krav
Krav Destroy Syvarris
Krav Destroys Fire Elem

Team Vydar Wins with Full Health Q10, Two (2) Krav, and One (1) Microcorp (250 Points)
Athan Destroyed One (1) Microcorp (33 Points)