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Old January 12th, 2021, 05:48 PM
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Re: The Book of Zatara - VOTE for Final Editing

Depends on the set up of the enemy army. If they're a single-attacking army then, sure, Doctor Fate first all the time, every time. If they have multiple turns and D20 manipulation on their side and/or Doctor Fate doesn't have a low roll banked on the D20, it's probably worth the risk sometimes. Also if they have big heavy hitters with lots of life, they could easily be immune to a lot of Doctor Fate's shenanigans due to having enough wounds on their guy already (though I know that shuttling things to Raven still works at least once a round).

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Old January 12th, 2021, 11:15 PM
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Re: The Book of Zatara - VOTE for Final Editing

Ran three more tests and got these results:

Doctor Fate (II) (370), Zatanna (III) (250), Raven (190), Zatara (225) (1035) vs. Mister Fantastic, Invisible Woman, Human Torch, She-Hulk, Wasp (I) (1035)

Game 1: Zatanna (III) 3/4 Life, Doctor Fate (II) 2/5 Life, Raven Full Life, Zatara Full Life.

Game 2: Human Torch 1/5, Mister Fantastic 3/5, Invisible Woman 4/5

Doctor Fate (II) (370), Zatanna (III) (250), Raven (190), Zatara (230) (1040) vs. Black Canary (III) (220), Hawkgirl (Kendra) (250), Hawkwoman (260), Wonder Woman (III) (310) (1040)

Game 3: Raven with 4/5 Life

It's a really tough grouping that needs a very specific strategy to go against it (used that strategy in the second game but not the first, notably). He's obviously the engine driving things. I don't really think adding a 6 clear sight restriction on his activations would change things much. I'd rather lower his defense to 3 and keep his points at 230. I think that'll give the enemy a chance to target him and take him out fast if his forces don't keep him clean by hitting the right D20 rolls at the right time.

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Re: The Book of Zatara - VOTE for Final Editing

I'll hold overnight for comments, but if there are no objections after that, I'll consider him moved to Final Editing. We've got some time before he's released, so I'll try to sprinkle him in here and there just to make sure I feel OK about where he's at. If he feels too strong in the future, I can always make further tweaks.

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Re: The Book of Zatara - VOTE for Final Editing

Ran another with original X-Men (1,000) with 3 defense on Zatara and the X-Men won with Full Life Jean, Full Life Professor X, Full Life Beast, and 2 Life Angel. They're super tough, but they have counters and I like them with that change. Also, I don't think that'll be a very common army for folks to run at 1,040 points! Maybe with Magik at 1200?

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Re: The Book of Zatara - Final Editing

This passes to Final Editing.

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Re: The Book of Zatara - VOTE for Final Editing

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Also, I don't think that'll be a very common army for folks to run at 1,040 points! Maybe with Magik at 1200?
Could aim DC Constantine to be 160. Or slightly less, so spells feel like a viable add-on.
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Re: The Book of Zatara - Final Editing

Could just use 60 points of spells and play it at 1100
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Re: The Book of Zatara - Final Editing

True! So definitely a viable build at 1100 and up. Good call. Does give the opponent a bit more room to counter, though.

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Re: The Book of Zatara - Final Editing

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Re: The Book of Zatara - Final Editing

Pre-yea to on deck
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Re: The Book of Zatara - Final Editing

Thank you, sir! Looks good. I propose we move to On Deck!

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Re: The Book of Zatara - Final Editing

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