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Old August 25th, 2019, 03:18 AM
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

I like it. Seems like Fan the Hammer is a reference to something that I'm not getting, though (probably just my problem, so please enlighten me!).

At the risk of a spoiler, Grit is the name of a power of an upcoming C3V unit, so you might want to come up with something else there.

Other than power name comments, I don't have much by way of critique. I think it is great to have a Lawman following Ullar, with a multi-attack, at 50 points, and female. We haven't seen any of those as of yet.

EDIT: caps' post reminded me that Rebellious stuck out to me in a bad way on a first read over.

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Old August 25th, 2019, 03:35 AM
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

Rebellious Lawman? She seems more like an Outlaw.

Your custom probably has too much Defense.

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Old August 25th, 2019, 05:47 AM
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

Rebellious does not mean someone is a criminal. That would mean that nearly every teenager in the world is a criminal, when only like 20% of them are.

Rebellious just means they don't always follow orders, and they like to stick it to the man. But being a good person at heart, they'll do what's right when it counts.

She just needs a bio to explain all that.
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Old August 25th, 2019, 12:26 PM
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

Yeah, it’s more “chaotic good” than an outlaw. Here’s her bio.

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The Crawford family expected much of young Kaitlyn. Born in Tennessee with a silver spoon in her mouth, she was destined to live a life of luxury. Her family planned out her life. From the best finishing schools, to a massive dowry, to a politically convenient marriage to another rich family's wicked but corrupt son. She was to be a useful tool in the Crawford family's arsenal of power.

But if there was one thing Kate didn't truck with, it was destiny. From a young age, she was a rebellious girl. Taking horses for joyrides, skipping her classes to play in the river, learning how to shoot. Encouraged by her incorrigible aunt, Kate grew up to be an irrepressible force for well-intentioned mischief and chaos in her town, much to the dismay of her parents.

When the day came for her to move out west to marry her suitor, Kate Crawford conspired with her aunt to escape - ditching her fancy dress and jumping the wagon train, hitching a ride with some shifty drifters her aunt knew. KAte resolved to make her own way, by her own rules. She wouldn't be married to anyone, much less that wicked Mulroney Jr...
Fanning the hammer is a firing technique where a person firing a revolver will use their free hand to reset the hammer of a revolver much faster than you’d be able to with your thumb. It’s kind of a trick shot technique, and it probably wasn’t actually useful in real life, but if you’re leaning on tropes a little bit as units usually do I don’t think it’s a problem.

Here’s an article about it.
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Old August 25th, 2019, 01:10 PM
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

Rebellious Lawman did give me pause initially as well (namely because it seems especially contradictory to have a lawman rebelling), but the bio does a decent job of explaining it. It doesn't come across very clearly just from the card itself, but then again, neither does Q10 being Merciful. I like her more as a Lawman than an Outlaw in any case, especially because an Outlaw doesn't immediately feel like something that Ullar would summon.

I'm a fan of Fan the Hammer, since it's a classic trope that we haven't seen represented at all yet (plus, it ties her thematically to the other Lawmen SAs while giving her a unique niche). In terms of practicality, I feel like it's unlikely to be very useful, but if that proves true from testing then I'd personally prefer her cost to drop over buffing the attack significantly.
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

If it trips enough people up I could see a change to Reckless or Bold or something.

When I was testing Clayton I did play Kate a bunch, and FtH did seem useful, but I definitely agree that I’d rather drop her points than change the SA’s attack.
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Fanning the Hammer would be more useful (and thematic) if you could attack units adjacent to the initial target figure.




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Fanning the Hammer would be more useful (and thematic) if you could attack units adjacent to the initial target figure.

It'd be tricky to word it to allow this. If the initial figure dies on the first attack, then any of the other figures would no longer be adjacent. I'm not aware of any powers that check a previous condition.

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Old August 25th, 2019, 05:52 PM
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Well met!

Fanning the Hammer would be more useful (and thematic) if you could attack units adjacent to the initial target figure.

It'd be tricky to word it to allow this. If the initial figure dies on the first attack, then any of the other figures would no longer be adjacent. I'm not aware of any powers that check a previous condition.

~Dysole, who thinks if there's an elegant way to word it, then it's probably worth looking into
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Rebellious Lawman? She seems more like an Outlaw.
Rebellious Lawman feels fine to me. My Mum and I have been watching quite a bit of Waking the Dead (a mystery series by the BBC - it's really good) recently, and 'lawman who plays fast and loose with the rules and doesn't really listen to anyone' is a pretty well established trope.


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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

I don't like Rebellious for a Lawman. I see what you're going for thematically, but it still looks off on the card. There are other personalities you can pick that fit well enough and don't have that dissonance.

Otherwise I like the design. While I don't think it would be too hard to word it so that she can also attack adjacent figures, I think the power is better off without that. Less thematic, arguably (only arguably), but I like the simplicity.
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

I've actually looked into female gunfighter of the past and they seem to either be performers (annie Oakley) or bandits. Not sure any had the backing of the law and I'm not sure if they would even be able to claim a bounty. doesn't bother me since heroscape is a version of earth's history not our history and current media supports the unsung women of history trope.

other than that I really like the card (I picked up a red head version of the min). I agree with dropping rebellious, a female lawman already covers that aspect of the design.


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