The Book of Cammy

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by LordVenoc

I'll give you a Pre-Yea for Final Editing with that change at 140. Results are balanced enough to keep the current cost I'd say.

pre-yea

[Skinderella]

Might be jumping the gun, but seeing two pre-yeas + the lack of pushback even before the slight ASK change, I propose we move to Final Editing at 140.

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Something I kept forgetting to bring up and probably too late now, but I do kinda wish we had a different Enforcer Class change power here.

Like I get the drive to re-use DJs but his is kinda bad? Like it's basically useless right now because Bison is so bad and the all Enforcer option prevents you from making an army where making her class Enforcer matters since the syngergy is coming from other Classes (and largely always will I think). And like, end of the day, changing a class isnt a very big deal anyway, other dudes do that for free with perks.

IDK, just wish that could be "if you control a Dictator" or whatever.

[Skinderella]

I'm more than happy to adjust that if the desire is there, because I agree on the points you've made with it. Currently it's a pretty useless power beyond running Bison + Cammy in a GotG build, and even then it's not great. Having it be something simpler like "if you control another Enforcer or Dictator, Cammy is an Enforcer too" would help. Bison would send her out to do stuff without him around anyway.

Honestly I've always felt Dee Jay's class changing should just work if you had one other figure of that class, as they're both pretty restricting.

Can pause the vote if we want to address the Enforcer stuff.

[Alexandros]

Originally Posted by Skinderella

No worries at all, and thanks for the tests! First game Cammy's team has 100 points extra so it's a little hard to judge based off of it, but I'm still not seeing her being overly strong, though could do with a couple tweaks.

Was Chun-Li used in the second game or is that just a mix up with Cammy? She's mentioned a couple times but just making sure.

That's a freudian slip. I used the Chun-Li mini as a proxy and kept making that mistake mentally. I apparently didn't save my text after hitting replace all.

The Spider-Verse thing- I'm honestly not sure how this happened. I copied the team from a list of 900 point teams. I see now it is not a 900 point team. Now I'm going to have to go through and audit all of my saved teams in TTS... :\

[Soundwarp SG-1]

I'd do:

If you control at least one figure that has the class of Dictator or Enforcer listed on their Army Card, Cammy has the class of Enforcer instead of what is listed on her army card.

Feels way more streamlined and useful to me.

Also wouldnt need more tests or anything IMO. Like it would just mean she could be paired with Judge Cal, which is kinda neat but not really something that specifcally needs testing.

[Skinderella]

Originally Posted by Alexandros

That's a freudian slip. I used the Chun-Li mini as a proxy and kept making that mistake mentally. I apparently didn't save my text after hitting replace all.

The Spider-Verse thing- I'm honestly not sure how this happened. I copied the team from a list of 900 point teams. I see now it is not a 900 point team. Now I'm going to have to go through and audit all of my saved teams in TTS... :\

I just checked the faction guide as I pick teams from there a lot myself, and you're right, that is a 800 point team listed as 900. Not your fault at all, I would of done the same thing and not realised until someone else pointed it out!

[Alexandros]

Originally Posted by Skinderella

I just checked the faction guide as I pick teams from there a lot myself, and you're right, that is a 800 point team listed as 900. Not your fault at all, I would of done the same thing and not realised until someone else pointed it out!

Interesting. I'll post in the faction strategy guide thread.

[Skinderella]

Originally Posted by Soundwarp SG-1

I'd do:

If you control at least one figure that has the class of Dictator or Enforcer listed on their Army Card, Cammy has the class of Enforcer instead of what is listed on her army card.

Feels way more streamlined and useful to me.

Also wouldnt need more tests or anything IMO. Like it would just mean she could be paired with Judge Cal, which is kinda neat but not really something that specifcally needs testing.

I like that, could be named something like Doll Mind Control.

DOLL MIND CONTROL
If you control at least one Unique Dictator or Enforcer Hero, Cammy has the class of Enforcer instead of what is listed on this card.

[IAmBatman]

Could the first power just straight up make her an Enforcer too without all the bells and whistles? Doesn’t seem like a problem to just give her both classes.

[Skinderella]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Could the first power just straight up make her an Enforcer too without all the bells and whistles? Doesn’t seem like a problem to just give her both classes.

We can do, but she's only ever working for Shadaloo when she's brainwashed by them, and tries to bring them down when she's not. I like having the distinct split, and my Chun-Li write up could make it that you could run both in a Bison or Cal build which I'm not too sure is fitting.

[Soundwarp SG-1]

I like the split as a theme thing yeah.