"Tough" question

[K/H_Addict]

what if MBS stares at a Gnator, or James Murphy Whips one. Do they still get there auto shield, even though you didnt roll anything?

stop being lazy!

Tough
When rolling defense dice against a normal attack, Gorillinators always add one automatic shield to whatever is rolled.

"whatever is rolled" if you dont roll, you dont get it.
its on the offical page, why are you being lazy lately! >_<

[reapersaurus]

[K/H_Addict]

yes, but, depending on how you think about it, you do roll. You roll 0 dice.

*eats K/H_Addict*

[jcb231]

No....you don't roll anything. The MBS and James Murphy rules, if I recall correctly, say the target doesn't roll for defense. Am I right on that? Therefore you didn't roll and can't add the shield.

[sigmazero13]

I agree. No dice = no roll = no autoshield.

[CornPuff]

Uh oh, I might have to make a Phases of Attack post.

The rules are written to make the game as easy to understand, and to outline the spirit of the game. If they took the time to outline the exact mechanics HS operates on in the rulebook and cards, no one would play the game.

Ok.

Originally Posted by Da Card

When rolling defense against a normal attack, Gorillanators always add one automatic shield to whatever is rolled

'When Rolling Defense' refers to a phase of attack resolution. After an MBS stare or a Murphy whip, they cannot roll any defense dice. So the G'Nators roll no defense dice, rather, during the defense dice rolling phase, they roll 0 def dice. Then they add their automatic shiled to whatever is rolled. In this case, 0 shields were rolled out of 0 dice, add the auto-shield, and then the shield total is one.

This is the same thing as no move, no summon with saylind (disproven) and no move, no attack, no chomp w Grimnak (disproven).

maybe it is time to make my Phases of Attack Resolution chart...

[Su-Bak-Na]

Originally Posted by ultradoug

*eats K/H_Addict*

Man UD you sure like eating people.

If you havn't been in chat with UD you won't understand.

[Su-Bak-Na]

Originally Posted by K/H_Addict

yes, but, depending on how you think about it, you do roll. You roll 0 dice.

Not to start a fight but isn't that rules lawering.(spelling)

[CornPuff]

It is my opinion that rolling 0 dice actually goes with the spirit of heroscape, as well as a possible interpretation of the text. Rolling 0 dice does seems a bit odd, but I'm totally with K/H on this one.

[sigmazero13]

Su-Bak-Na, there's often a fine line between what people call "rules lawyering" and "reading the true intent of the rules", though In fact, My opinion is that "rules lawyering" is an oft-maligned term. Sometimes, you NEED a rules lawyer to make sure that the game is played the way it is SUPPOSED to be played. Such lawyers will not try to rules-lawyer something to try and twist a rule, but rather to keep a rule from being twisted by others

Granted, on this particular topic I disagree with K/H, but I don't think his argument is necessary pulling at straws, either