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Old February 20th, 2019, 08:53 PM
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Re: Book of Mon-El (Initial Playtesting)

I'll give others some time to comment but @Ronin what do you think of bumping his defense up by one?
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Old February 20th, 2019, 08:55 PM
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Re: Book of Mon-El (Initial Playtesting)

I'm okay with Defense going up to 7. Gives him a hair more ability to hang with enemy big guns.

Quick question on Inspirational Valor that didn't come up in my games: is it intended to last after he's destroyed, or fizzle out if he goes down?
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Old February 20th, 2019, 08:58 PM
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Re: Book of Mon-El (Initial Playtesting)

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Quick question on Inspirational Valor that didn't come up in my games: is it intended to last after he's destroyed, or fizzle out if he goes down?
Hmmm I don't really have a preference, I guess just whatever is most consistent with other inspiration powers like Solovar's.
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Old February 20th, 2019, 09:00 PM
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Re: Book of Mon-El (Initial Playtesting)

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Quick question on Inspirational Valor that didn't come up in my games: is it intended to last after he's destroyed, or fizzle out if he goes down?
Hmmm I don't really have a preference, I guess just whatever is most consistent with other inspiration powers like Solovar's.
What about thematically? Is he the kind to leave a strong motivation factor behind after he is gone, or mostly just while he is present?
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Old February 20th, 2019, 09:06 PM
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Re: Book of Mon-El (Initial Playtesting)

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Quick question on Inspirational Valor that didn't come up in my games: is it intended to last after he's destroyed, or fizzle out if he goes down?
Hmmm I don't really have a preference, I guess just whatever is most consistent with other inspiration powers like Solovar's.
What about thematically? Is he the kind to leave a strong motivation factor behind after he is gone, or mostly just while he is present?
I see it as more of a "Wow he's so heroic, he inspires me to be more like him" rather than "It sure inspires me to be fighting along a really strong dude" so I think it makes sense for it to last after death.

Also, in one of the continuities Lar is treated as an almost Christ-like figure whose actions in the 20th century inspired people all the way in the 30th. So there's story precedent for him inspiring people after he's not around.
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Old February 20th, 2019, 09:10 PM
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Re: Book of Mon-El (Initial Playtesting)

I think the other inspiration powers cut out when the inspirer takes any wounds at all. I wouldn't go that far, though, I think that's excessive as a nerf (especially for a figure that felt overcosted to me).

My preference for simplicity would be to word it like this:

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If Mon-El inflicts a wound on an opponent's figure with a normal or special attack, then all Legionnaires you control are considered Inspired [until the end of the round or Mon-El is destroyed] [for the remainder of the round]. Inspired Legionnaires add 1 to their Attack and Defense numbers.
Red if we want it to cut out when he goes down, blue if we don't. Sounds like blue is a little better thematically, red is a little closer to other inspiration powers.

Drops the clear sight requirement, but I think that muddies the power without adding in a ton of theme. Does add in the requirement that he has to get the wound in with an attack rather than a passing swipe (not exceptionally valorous) or some kind of auto-wounding glyph (which is niche).

Wouldn't have made a difference in my games, just occurred to me while I was playing.
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Re: Book of Mon-El (Initial Playtesting)

I prefer blue.

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Re: Book of Mon-El (Initial Playtesting)

I think I prefer blue as well. How does this look to everyone?
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NAME = MON-EL
SECRET IDENTITY = LAR GAND

SPECIES = DAXAMITE
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = LEGIONNAIRE
PERSONALITY = VALIANT

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 7

MOVE = 7
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 7
POINTS = 380


HEAT VISION SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 4. Attack 2 + Special.
Choose a figure to attack and roll 2 attack dice, or 3 attack dice if the chosen figure is an Android or Destructible Object. For each skull rolled, roll one additional attack die. Continue rolling an additional attack die for each additional skull rolled until no skulls are rolled. The defending figure rolls defense normally.

INSPIRATIONAL VALOR
If Mon-El inflicts a wound on an opponent's figure with a normal or special attack, then all Legionnaires you control are considered Inspired for the remainder of the round. Inspired Legionnaires add 1 to their Attack and Defense numbers.

DAXAMITE DEFENSE
When rolling defense against a normal attack from a figure that is not a Kryptonian or Daxamite, if at least one shield is rolled, all blanks rolled count as extra shields.

FLYING

SUPER STRENGTH
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Old February 20th, 2019, 09:34 PM
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Re: Book of Mon-El (Initial Playtesting)

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I think I prefer blue as well. How does this look to everyone?
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NAME = MON-EL
SECRET IDENTITY = LAR GAND

SPECIES = DAXAMITE
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = LEGIONNAIRE
PERSONALITY = VALIANT

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 7

MOVE = 7
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 7
POINTS = 380


HEAT VISION SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 4. Attack 2 + Special.
Choose a figure to attack and roll 2 attack dice, or 3 attack dice if the chosen figure is an Android or Destructible Object. For each skull rolled, roll one additional attack die. Continue rolling an additional attack die for each additional skull rolled until no skulls are rolled. The defending figure rolls defense normally.

INSPIRATIONAL VALOR
If Mon-El inflicts a wound on an opponent's figure with a normal or special attack, then all Legionnaires you control are considered Inspired for the remainder of the round. Inspired Legionnaires add 1 to their Attack and Defense numbers.

DAXAMITE DEFENSE
When rolling defense against a normal attack from a figure that is not a Kryptonian or Daxamite, if at least one shield is rolled, all blanks rolled count as extra shields.

FLYING

SUPER STRENGTH
I'd drop the "then" from Inspirational Valor and send him out at 370.
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Re: Book of Mon-El (Initial Playtesting)

Increase his Defense and lower his points?
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Re: Book of Mon-El (Initial Playtesting)

I don't think it's enough to keep him at 380.
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Re: Book of Mon-El (Initial Playtesting)

I'm not getting 380 from Ronin's playtests, so I'm fine lowering him to 370 for now. No problem bringing it back up if its an issue.
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