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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Bleez) (VOTE for Public Playtes

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Looks like they lost to a Guardians build, but won out pretty strongly against other armies that were more loosely put-together.

Wouldn't mind seeing Bleez plus another Red or two mixed into a generalist thing, put up against other more tightly-constructed builds. Fine with seeing that in public testing, though.
For sure. The Reds aren't tight-knit themselves right now, so they got pummeled fairly well against the Guardians. Hopefully the next faction pin can really tie them together.

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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Bleez) (Public Playtest)

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Old February 12th, 2019, 11:38 AM
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Bleez) (Public Playtest)

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Here are the results! With one bonus test as well, because well... Game 2 was a bit quick and probably not super good for information, so I repeated the match.

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I realized I forgot to update the SP so these tests were at 330. A couple of pretty close games and one blowout loss, so I'm still going to ask for 350 on the next one.

The intent for the Reds marker interaction is for Bleez to be able to steal markers with Treacherous Rage and then the other Reds can "get them back" with Raging Plasma, essentially making new markers. Is the wording on Raging Plasma confusing for this / do we need to update it? "Previously removed" isn't really a defined phrase in our game.

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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Bleez) (Design Phase)

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NAME = RED LANTERN
SECRET IDENTITY = BLEEZ

SPECIES = HAVANIAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = RAVAGER
PERSONALITY = SEDUCTIVE

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 6

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 350


RED POWER BATTERY 2
Start the game with 2 red Battery Markers on this card. Add one to this Red Lantern's Move and Attack for each Battery Marker on this card.

TREACHEROUS RAGE
Once per round, before moving this Red Lantern, you may move a red Battery Marker from an adjacent figure's Army Card onto this card. If you do, for the rest of the round, immediately after this Red Lantern or a Ravager within 4 clear sight spaces of this Red Lantern inflicts one or more wounds on a figure, you must roll 1 unblockable attack die against that figure. This Red Lantern can never have more than 3 red Battery Markers on her card.

RAGING PLASMA
When this Red Lantern rolls defense dice and receives at least one wound, you may place one previously removed red Battery Marker on this card. If the attack was an adjacent normal attack, you may instead remove a red Battery Marker from this card to count all blanks rolled as unblockable hits on the attacking figure.


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In the bolded part above, which figure does "that figure" refer to? The defending figure? The figure you took the red Battery Marker from? Or the attacking figure?

For Raging Plasma, does it have to be a marker you previously removed from Bleez's card? Or from any Red Lantern?

For the all blanks rolled part, is it blanks rolled in the attack roll or the defense roll?

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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Bleez) (Design Phase)

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TREACHEROUS RAGE
Once per round, before moving this Red Lantern, you may move a red Battery Marker from an adjacent figure's Army Card onto this card. If you do, for the rest of the round, immediately after this Red Lantern or a Ravager within 4 clear sight spaces of this Red Lantern inflicts one or more wounds on a figure, you must roll 1 unblockable attack die against that figure. This Red Lantern can never have more than 3 red Battery Markers on her card.

RAGING PLASMA
When this Red Lantern rolls defense dice and receives at least one wound, you may place one previously removed red Battery Marker on this card. If the attack was an adjacent normal attack, you may instead remove a red Battery Marker from this card to count all blanks rolled as unblockable hits on the attacking figure.
In the bolded part above, which figure does "that figure" refer to? The defending figure? The figure you took the red Battery Marker from? Or the attacking figure?
The defending figure, AKA the one who just received the wounds from the attack.

For Raging Plasma, does it have to be a marker you previously removed from Bleez's card? Or from any Red Lantern?
It can only be a marker removed from Bleez's card. When playing with Supergirl and Mera, there is a nice interaction I love where Bleez can steal markers from her allies and then, Supergirl and Mera can effectively create new markers via their Raging Plasma powers.

For the all blanks rolled part, is it blanks rolled in the attack roll or the defense roll?
All blanks rolled by Bleez on defense.
For whomever worked heavily on Supergirl and Mera, if this is not how Raging Plasma works in actuality, please let us know.


Thanks for testing her! Since you are in-sanctum and have access to all of the Reds, I would like to see both tests in entirely-Red Lantern armies, please.

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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Bleez) (Public Playtest)

Thanks for the guidelines! I'm happy to oblige!

Thanks for the clarifications too. Hopefully we can come up with some clearer wording on some of these.

Edit: for the second answer, that interaction is a little odd from literal translation of the language. If I'm following the wording literally, shouldn't I be stealing the marker back from Bleez to return it on the card?

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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Bleez) (Public Playtest)

It is strange and I agree that wording will need to be polished through and through. The interaction makes sense to me though since while Bleez draws on the power of her allies, the Reds can still draw new power form their rings/the battery.

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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Bleez) (Public Playtest)

I've got no issue with the theme of it. I'm just not convinced that the wording, as is, actually does that.

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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Bleez) (Public Playtest)

That'd be my suggested wording change to account for the intended mechanics and power interactions.

RAGING PLASMA
When this Red Lantern rolls defense dice and receives at least one wound, if a red Battery Marker was previously removed from this card, you may replace it. If this Red Lantern rolls defense dice against an adjacent, normal attack, you may instead remove a red Battery Marker from this card to count all your blanks rolled as unblockable hits on the attacking figure.

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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Bleez) (Public Playtest)

Yeah I'd say the wording as-is would allow you to place the one from Bleez's card that she took from them, back onto their card, rather than a completely new one while Bleez keeps the one she stole.
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Bleez) (Public Playtest)

I don't know that we've ever used "replace" before. Maybe @Ronin has a solution. There are only 3 cards with this power (counting this one, since Atrocitus doesn't have it), so it would be an easy fix.

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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Bleez) (Public Playtest)

I mean, the current language is pretty explicitly clear that it should be the same exact marker that's being returned to the card, so the trick you mentioned wouldn't work that way. It might be mechanically clearer to just not have that trick be viable, though.

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