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Old March 15th, 2019, 01:58 PM
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

I think this is an improvement all around.

Nerfs Xundar a bit in cleanup without taking away his potential.
Provides the Fiend some differentiation from the Hound.

Good stuff.

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Old March 15th, 2019, 02:15 PM
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

I think Shadow Swoop should say "each other Shadow figure" so it cannot boost itself. Shadow Cast should not say "another."

Aside from those minor wording quibbles, I very much like the new direction. Very good changes all-around.
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Old March 15th, 2019, 03:01 PM
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

Aside from Deathwalkers being hit unreasonably hard, these are both great improvements.

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Old March 15th, 2019, 06:57 PM
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

Thanks guys. It's reassuring to hear I'm on the right track.
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Old March 15th, 2019, 07:45 PM
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

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Try to think of a power that would be really interesting, maybe a bit complicated, or where you roll 12 attack dice. You might think, "wow, this is really overpowered." But it's not over powered so long as it is priced accordingly.
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Look at how Taelord goes from terrible in a 400-point game to amazing in a 2000-point game. And that's just talking 1v1 on a simple map. That's why pricing calculators are only useful as a guideline, and why playtesting in many environments is important.
Many powers can be perfectly balanced in a narrow environment at a specific price point, but be wildly broken (or useless) in other environments. Price alone cannot rescue many designs.

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Old March 15th, 2019, 08:17 PM
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

Because Shadow Fiend is a medium figure you should probably change Shadow Swoop so it only affects medium and small figures. Other than that I think it looks good.
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Old March 15th, 2019, 11:52 PM
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Because Shadow Fiend is a medium figure you should probably change Shadow Swoop so it only affects medium and small figures. Other than that I think it looks good.
Yeah you're probably right...I forgot about that.
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Old March 15th, 2019, 11:55 PM
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

I could go either way thematically, but that change does alleviate Necro's concern.

Although Deathwalkers really should be running with ZI's at this point, so I wouldn't worry that much about them.

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Old March 16th, 2019, 12:40 AM
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I could go either way thematically, but that change does alleviate Necro's concern.

Although Deathwalkers really should be running with ZI's at this point, so I wouldn't worry that much about them.
Well thatís the reason why I left it as-is, cause I felt like it was thematic and yes ZIís
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

Man, I usually forget that ZI’s are a thing.

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...Although Deathwalkers really should be running with ZI's at this point...
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Old March 17th, 2019, 09:48 AM
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...Although Deathwalkers really should be running with ZI's at this point...
Agreed. Let Deathwalkers be Deathwalkers. Just because ZI exist doesn't mean we have to try to kill them with every defense-ignoring power.

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