The Book of Ten of Spades

[fret_gurglo]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Some epic whiffs from Superman in there to make that happen?

Yes. It was shocking

[Yodaking]

Another option would be to make the bonus W a 50/50 (ie. unblockable) instead of automatic.

[fret_gurglo]

Originally Posted by Yodaking

Another option would be to make the bonus W a 50/50 (ie. unblockable) instead of automatic.

I considered that too and would be fine with it. I was just thinking that team already does alot of dice rolls and didn't need another mechanic for more. But if others prefer it, I have no objection

[fret_gurglo]

I assuming that everyone is OK with the altered proposed SA. I've updated the SP with that change and I'm proposing a Vote for public playtesting.

[tcglkn]

Yea

[Arch-vile]

Overall looks good. Swingy results!

yea

[Yodaking]

yea

[fret_gurglo]

I think this passes on time. How do you guys want to proceed with playtesting the team itself? Obviously, Ten will go to public testing to make sure she is balanced. But do we just want to use those tests to evaluate the team as a whole, or do some extra testing for the team? I feel pretty confident with most of the team (I actually think King is a little over cost, but don't care enough to make a big deal about it).

[tcglkn]

Think just testing Ten with them is enough.

[tcglkn]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Ten of Spades (and Gang)

Version tested:

Spoiler Alert!

NAME = TEN OF SPADES
SECRET IDENTITY = WANDA WAYLAND

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CRIMINAL
PERSONALITY = ARISTOCRATIC

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM / 4

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 140

ENERGY BLASTERS SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 3. Attack 3.
After Ten of Spades attacks with this special attack, she may

• Attack with this special attack one additional time
• Or, if Ten of Spades inflicted at least one wound on the first attack, you may add one additional wound to the defending figure.

Destructible objects cannot be affected by this special attack.

ROYAL FLUSH 10
After taking a turn with Ten of Spades you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 10 or higher you may take an immediate turn with Jack of Spades, Queen of Spades, King of Spades or Ace of Spades. Royal Flush can only be used if you revealed an Order Marker on a card with this special power at the beginning of your turn.

FLYING

Army Test
Map: Ivy's Greenhouse
Units: Ace of Spades (260), Jack of Spades (160), King of Spades (240), Queen of Spades (200), Ten of Spades (140) (1000) VS Fan 4 (1000)

Spoiler Alert!

Damage Dealt: 2 wounds to IW with her Special

Special Attack: 1 wound with SA on IW which added an additional wound.

Royal Flush:

Ten: 11, 8+3, 5, 13, dead
Jack: 12, 2, 14, 13, 8+3, 7, 13, 19, 20
Queen: 13, 16, 3, 11+3, 20, 16, dead
King: 17, 10+3, 13, 19, 18, 20



Royal Flush Gang "out activated" the Fan 4 most of this game which gave them more attacks and better positioning. Being able to take down Invisible Woman early thanks to Ten really helped make this match easy for the RFG.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Jack with 3 wounds and King with 2 wounds

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Army Test
Map: Ivy's Greenhouse
Units: Ace of Spades (260), Jack of Spades (160), King of Spades (240), Queen of Spades (200), Ten of Spades (140) (1000) VS X-Men (1000)

Spoiler Alert!

Damage Dealt: 2 wounds to both Jean Grey and Iceman with her special attack

Special Attack: Just the above mentioned damage

Royal Flush:

Ten: 3, 6, 5, 9+3, 8+3, 19, dead
Jack: 11, 16, 8+3, 16, dead
Queen: 15, 17, 12, 9+3, dead
King: 12+3, 15, 15, 17, 10+3, dead


Ten really rolled poorly at the start of the game which made it hard for the RFG to get set up. They really felt like they were on the backfoot the entire game from that point and in the end, the consistency of the X-Men won out. Felt like a good game and better d20 rolls for the RFG could have easily put the game in their favor which is just how it works with these types of armies (same with how the Fan 4 works)

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Cyclops and Beast with 3 wounds each and Professor X and Angel unwounded.

THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Really enjoyed how the whole team played out, as I mentioned in the second game, they play out similar enough to the Fan 4 where they live and die by how their d20 rolling is. Great work building this faction out fret!

[fret_gurglo]

Thanks tickle.

[Arkham]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Ten of Spades

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Army Test 1
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Royal Flush Gang(1000)
vs.
Star-Lord(250), Nebula(240), Gamora(300), Venom Rocket(210) (1000)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:
R1T3: 1 wound on Star-Lord. (EBSA 2nd attack)

Royal Flush:
R1T1: rolls a 17, takes a turn with Jack.
• Jack rolls a 15, takes a turn with Queen.
• Queen rolls a 15, takes a turn with King.
• King rolls a 12, reveals X on Jack for +3 = 15, takes a turn with Ace.
• Ace removes and replaces the X back onto Jack.
R1T2: rolls a 9, X revealed on Jack for +3 = 12, takes a turn with Jack.
• Jack rolls an 18, takes a turn with Queen.
• Queen rolls a 5.
R1T3: rolls a 19, takes a turn with Jack.
• Jack rolls a 12, takes a turn with Queen.
• Queen rolls a 4.

Notes:
R1T1: Gamora targets Ten, but Queen swaps in Ace who blocks.
R1T2: Ten takes 1 wound from Gamora's HR. Queen takes 1 wound from Gamora's HR.
R1T2: Venom Rocket gains 1 marker.
R1T3: Jack puts 2 wounds on Star-Lord with his SA. Queen kills Star-Lord with her SA.
R2T1: Gamora puts 2 wound son Ten, then kills Queen.
R2T1: Ten is killed by Gamora's HR.
R2T2: Gamora puts 1 wound on Jack.
R2T2: OM2 is moved from Ten and put on Jack. Jack takes 1 wound from Gamora's HR. Jack rolls a 10 for RF, X is revealed to bump it to 13, takes a turn with King. King rolls a 20 to take a turn with Ace. Ace puts 3 wounds on Nebula(botch). Removes and replaces X on Jack, who puts 1 wound on Nebula.
R2T3: Venom Rocket puts 2 markers on his card. Puts 1 wound on Ace who rolled a blank.
R2T3: Ace puts 1 wound on Nebula.
R2end: Nebula heals 1 wound.
R3T1: Gamora puts 1 wound on Jack. Nebula puts 2 wounds on King.
R3T1: Jack rolls a 13, takes a turn with King. King rolls a 17 for Enhanced Charisma, removes OM2 from Gamora, then kills Nebula with his SA. King then rolls a 20 for RF, but reveals X on Jack anyway. Takes a turn with Ace. Ace puts 1 wound on Gamora. Jack attacks and regains X OM.
R3T2: Jack avoids LEA, puts 3 wounds on Venom Rocket, but is then killed by his Symbiote Salvo.
R3T3: Ace puts 3 wounds on Gamora.
R4T1: Gamora puts 1 wound on King.
R4T1: King rolls a 16 for EC, removes OM2 from Gamora. Puts 1 wound on Gamora. Rolls a 16 for RF, reveals X anyway. Ace kills Gamora. King puts 1 wound on Rocket, and the X is placed back on his card.
R4T2: King rolls a 10 for EC, reveals X for +3, removes OM3 from Venom Rocket. Kills Venom Rocket.


King of Spades with 3/6 wounds(3 life), and Ace with 1/6 wounds(5 life).

A bit of luck for the Royal Flush, succeeding on many rolls. However, they definitely feel pretty solid thus far. We'll see how the next one shakes out, but it felt fairly even luck aside.

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Army Test 2
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Royal Flush Gang(1000)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Moon Knight(150), Shang-Chi(230), Tigra(170) (1000)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:
R1T2: 2 wounds on Moon Knight. (EBSA extra wound)
R2T1: 2 wounds on Luke Cage. (EBSA extra wound)
R2T2: 2 wounds on Luke Cage. (EBSA extra wound)
R3T1: 2 wounds on Shang-Chi(botch). (EBSA extra wound)

Royal Flush 10:
R1T1: rolls a 19, takes a turn with Jack.
• Jack rolls a 16, takes a turn with Queen.
• Queen rolls a 9, reveals X on Jack for +3 = 12, takes a turn with King.
• King rolls a 14, takes a turn with Ace.
• Ace places X back on Jack.
R1T2: rolls a 9, reveals X on Jack for +3 = 12, takes a turn with Jack.
• Jack rolls a 20, takes a turn with Queen.
• Queen rolls a 5.
R1T3: rolls a 10, takes a turn with Jack.
• Jack rolls a 16, takes a turn with Queen.
• Queen rolls a 3.
R2T1: rolls a 6.
R2T2: rolls a 10, takes a turn with Queen.
• Queen rolls an 11, reveals X on King for +3 = 14, takes a turn with King.
• King rolls a 2.
R3T1: rolls an 18, takes a turn with Queen.
• Queen rolls a 4.

Notes:
R1T1: Moon Knight puts 1 wound on Jack but fails on King with CD.
R1T2: Jack puts 1 wound on Moon Knight with his SA.
R1T2: Moon Knight puts 1 wound on Jack but fails on King with CD. Cage kills friendly Moon Knight after he is swapped in for Queen.
R1T3: Jack puts 2 wounds on Shang-Chi with his SA.
R1T3: Iron Fist kills Jack. Cage puts 2 wounds on Ten after Queen swaps places with him.
R2T1: Fist puts 1 wound on friendly Luke Cage after he gets swapped in for Queen, then heals Luke Cage 1 wound to say sorry. Cage, apparently not accepting the apology, hits Fist for 1 wound after he is swapped in for Queen.
R2T2: Fist puts 1 wound on Ace. Cage puts 1 wound on Ten after he is swapped in for Queen.
R2T3: Ace puts 2 wounds on Iron Fist. Attacks with King.
R2T3: Fist puts 1 wound on Ace. Cage puts 2 wounds on King after he is swapped in for Queen.
R3T1: Fist kills Cage(botch) after he is swapped in for Queen, then heals 1 wound.
R3T1: Queen puts 1 wound on Iron Fist.
R3T2: X is revealed on King to add 3 to Queen's Deception roll, swapping herself for Ace when targeted by Iron Fist.
R3T2: King rolls an 18, takes a turn with Ace. Ace kills Iron Fist.
R3T3: Shang-Chi kills Ten.
R3T3: Ace takes 2 wounds from Shang-Chi's MMA.
R4T1: Queen rolls a 20, takes a turn with King. King kills Shang-Chi. King rolls a 12 for RF, reveals the X to add 3, then takes a turn with Ace. Ace puts 1 wound on Tigra. Ace puts the X back on King.
R4T2: Queen puts 1 wound on Tigra. Queen rolls a 16 for RF, takes a turn with King. King rolls a 19 for RF, reveals X anyway, takes a turn with Ace. Ace puts 1 wound on Tigra. Attacks with King. King kills Tigra(botch).


Ace with 4/6 wounds(2 life), King with 2/6 wounds(4 life), and Queen unwounded.

Ouch. These guys can be a tough nut to crack. They did well with the d20 again, but with so many rolls going on and a potential +3 that doesn't feel super hard to do.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
I'd say they are coming in just a hair hot. Hard to say for sure though since I hit a lot of their rolls quite often. I'd imagine we want to keep them at 1000 points together, so I'd maybe just dial a thing or two down ever so slightly as they have a lot going for them. They are a fun army together, so that's what really counts, and each member is providing something to the team, so that's cool. I like what you have in terms of numbering and sticking to those numbers throughout each of their cards, so tweaking is a little tricky.

Here is some wording stuff to fix:

Ten of Spades' SA in general is worded a bit odd and missing punctuation.

Ace's Ace Up The Sleeve needs to clarify that the "X" is on a card you control. As is written, you could use it against opponents.

Queen's Deception SA should probably be limited to opponent's attacks.

King of Spades'
-Enhanced Charisma power needs capitalized Order Marker. "from their card" should be "from the chosen figure's card"
-King's Command special power needs "X", Order Marker capitalized, and "card you control to add 3...".