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Re: Prop 8 Prevails in California -- Gay Marriage Discussion
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Philosophical Naturalism/ Macro Evolution is a dead theory so there is a God, this we can be sure: 1. The Law of Cause and Effect. The Effect has to have a Cause equal to or great than itself. Nothing cannot cause the Universe. Nothingness, non-living, chance/randomness cannot cause matter, life, consciousness, and order. If nothingness is the effect of the universe, then it flies against the laws of cause effect. And if Nothingness created the universe, then it would also contradict the First Law of Theromdynamics. 2. The First Law of Thermodynamics: Energy Conservation. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. This claims that we cannot get something from nothing. Nothing comes from nothing. 3. The Second Law of Thermodynamics: Entropy. Things go from order to disorder or from hot to cold [loss of energy]. The universe is slowly dying from heat loss. If, as some claim, thatthe universe is eternal, then we would have died of heat loss an infinite number of years ago. The concludes that the universe, though large beyond human comprehension, is not infinite. Philosophical naturalistic Macro-evolution claims that things go from disorder to order, which is a contradiction of the Second Law of Thermodynamics and Entropy: Order to Disorder. ... finally a thorough investigation will reveal that Christ was God, through the immutable fact of the ressurection. He claimed to be God and proved it. Take care |
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And if you believe in God, then it depends on whether you are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, etc. If you are Christian, then it depends what branch of Christianity you believe in. If you believe in that branch, then it depends if you believe in the conservative version of that branch. And if you believe in the conservative version of that branch, then it depends on whether or not you believe the Bible is to be taken literally or not. And if you take it literally, then do you believe being gay is a choice or not--the evidence suggests that it's at least not a choice that an adult chooses to make, as it's determine by nature or nurture before they are old enough to decide. And if you believe that whether they are really gay or not does not matter, should the government restrict the rights of these people who do not share your very specific religious views.
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Ummm...wow. You are so deep into your religion that you are bending reality if you believe that.
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Circumcision? HIS body, HIS decision. A person should have the right to their own body. "Sometimes you're right but you're always an asshole." - Anonymous neg rep Last edited by ParaGoomba Slayer; November 26th, 2008 at 07:20 PM. |
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Tonight, on Thanksgiving Eve 2008, I wish that, just perhaps, we can all practice a little more tolerance for people, especially people that are different than yourself.
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vdemman13...
Take your Bible quotations and your total lack of logical argument and walk away. The adults are talking. There are a number of other people who've posted on this thread with whom I disagree, but at the very least they're posting coherent responses. The next time you feel the urge to try and argue a legal point with a copy and paste from the Bible, just put your head between your knees and thank your lucky stars that you don't live in a country where the religion is the law. That is not dead which can eternal lie. And with strange aeons, even death may die. Heroes of StarWars 'Scape / North Carolina 'Scapers |
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Reporting back with epithets that question age and logic are something you should look at yourself before you post. Those are irrelavent and you should focus on the points of contention . No one wishes to live in a theocracy, that would be a return to legalism. The question here is what is the best choice in life rather than what makes one simply feel good. Faith should always serve as the conscience of a society and not a taskmaster or Dictator. If you wish to argue the points please do so with a counter, rather than using emotive words that only fuel emotions and server no coherent purpose.
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We can't base our society around conservative religious views, which appears to be what you are asking. You mention that we should do what is the 'best choice in life not what makes us feel good.' I agree 100%, but I end up with a different 'best choice'. Furthermore, your statement that macroevolution is a dead theory shows that you are very bold about your beliefs, despite there being reason to be bold. You're encouraged to join us in the evolution thread. Check out Gulp's Glyphs Not Worth Grabbing and Gulp's Abilities Not Worth Activating! Very Useful Thread: The Heroscape Library "Heroscapers.com is not a charity site for the illiterate." -Gbob
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Interesting on NPR today I caught part of a conversation interview with a geneticist who has authored some books on the subject. He was saying that claiming homosexuality is a genetic mutation may not be the whole truth. He said that a person could also be biologically homosexual. It doesn't make a person any less gay, but it also isn't a genetic mutation. Basically at some point in sexual development a person may just become gay spontaniously and possibly due to variables that have not yet been discovered. This is not a genetic mutation but a biological reaction to some unidentified trigger. The point was that there are more than one way to become gay but the homosexual person is not any less gay for it.
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What Gulp mentioned in his latest response caught my attention, in regards to "not having anything to work with" with Vdemman in terms of arguing this topic, because Vdemman sounds absolutely convinced of his view on it... But by that same logic, those who disagree with Granite-M also have "nothing to work with" because he too sounds absolutely convinced of HIS view on this topic, right? I don't know... I just don't view this thread as a place to try to necessarily sway other's opinions on gay marriage. It's not about having or not having "something to work with" in terms of debating or arguing. It's more of a place to share opinions and beliefs with others in, hopefully, a mature and respectful manner without name-calling, insulting, or belittling anyone. And emotionally-charged outbursts in a forum discussion also just don't belong seeing as how you have a LOT of control as to what you CHOOSE to type or not type in your responses before hitting "submit reply". In a live discussion, this can certainly be tougher to do at times, but I simply see no excuse for this in an online forum. If someone comes across obviously sounding too harsh, then that was obviously their intention to do so when they chose to click "submit". That, in my view, is simple bullying and a lack of basic decency. SW8K "The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." ~ Thomas Jefferson |
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Whether you believe evolution or creation or something else, I think everyone can agree that everything that exists on this Earth has a function. If it didn't, God wouldn't have put it here, or it would have been "evolved" out a million years ago. If you have any knowledge of biology, you'll see that the reproductive system is supposed to work in a clear and specific way (being heterosexual). Being homosexual means going against God or a million years of evolutionary improvements, whichever you believe. While people certainly have a right to do what they will, it's clear to me that there is a good choice and an illogical choice here.
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I'm sorry, but your argument is not valid. |
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