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Old April 13th, 2015, 01:00 PM
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Re: Suggestions for the Online Heroscape Organizers

All these suggestions are well and good, same with online in general, but I've been clamoring for a basic rules tournament for a long long time-- you're neglecting a major part of this community. This suggestion is 100 percent serious-- I don't want to come across as acidic in anyway, however.

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Old April 13th, 2015, 01:02 PM
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Re: Suggestions for the Online Heroscape Organizers

"Basic" as in bring only one army and play it for the whole tournament? or "basic" as in only use Classic figures? or "basic" as in use the basic side? or "basic" as in uggs and pumpkin spice lattes?

(genuinely curious, not trying to poke fun).

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Old April 13th, 2015, 01:04 PM
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"Basic" as in bring only one army and play it for the whole tournament? or "basic" as in only use Classic figures? or "basic" as in use the basic side? or "basic" as in uggs and pumpkin spice lattes?

(genuinely curious, not trying to poke fun).
Basic as in only the basic side of the cards (not advanced side).

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Old April 13th, 2015, 01:05 PM
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Huh

I have literally never met anyone who played with the basic sides of the cards.

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Old April 13th, 2015, 01:07 PM
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Re: Suggestions for the Online Heroscape Organizers

I agree with you Dysole, it was all a joke, sorry for the confusion. I just meant basic side of the card. Should've done this on April fools my bad everyone.

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Re: Suggestions for the Online Heroscape Organizers

It would be a good joke though... it's sort of an interesting game in a 6-year-old sort of way.

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Old April 13th, 2015, 01:13 PM
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Re: Suggestions for the Online Heroscape Organizers

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It would be a good joke though... it's sort of an interesting game in a 6-year-old sort of way.
We CLOUD require lattes and uggs. I even put in an acidic pun.

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Re: Suggestions for the Online Heroscape Organizers

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I would like to see the starting format randomized when doing an alternating format tournament.

To clarify, for example if you are doing alternating Army Draft-PYP (Pick your poison) then randomize which of those you are starting with for round 1 or round 1 of the playoffs.
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OK, that makes sense. I'm not opposed in principle, however, I have a bias the other way. Not because I necessarily prefer Army Draft to PyP or Heat to Chaos, but because the former formats are (slightly) simpler or more familiar to our players than the latter formats. As such, it allows us to ease into the event a little more easily, particularly for the new players in a given event.
Is this a definitive statement and rule by dok? Or is it a matter of none of the other organizers care and dok has a bias one way so that's the way it will remain?

Just checking as there has been no change to the order in alternating formats, and I feel it's too bad because I typically find the PyP or Chaos of Battle formats more enjoyable. I also think as time goes by the benefit to the new player argument gets less relevant, but today may still be.
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Old February 10th, 2016, 09:04 AM
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My understanding is that the game is called when 3 complete full rounds have gone by with no attacks attempted. Then it goes to partial card scoring.

I think that should be confirmed and officially posted somewhere (unless it already is and I missed it)
That is the unofficial rule, and you're right that we should probably make it official. I'd consider making it something like "at least 3 rounds and at least [one/two] initiative switch[es]". I really want the stalemate rule to be very conservative. The goal is just to make it clear who wins if nobody does anything, as opposed to forcing the action when something would happen anyway, it's just taking a while.
I'd be fine with that. Feel free to propose formal language here.
The current stalemate rules only encompass an initiative switch for 1 person. That accomplishes nothing if that's the person who is ahead and running away. The stalemate rule needs to be modified to ensure the person who is behind on partial card scoring get an initiative switch. That's my opinion and based on the above post, dok's also. But it's not the reality of the rules below.

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Old February 10th, 2016, 11:21 AM
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Re: Suggestions for the Online Heroscape Organizers

Yeah, we basically made it the way it is for the sake of being easy to read for someone who doesn't really understand the concept of an initiative switch. As it is, it's only a 1/4 chance that the simplified language would be a problem (only creates an issue if the player who is behind on points either goes win, lose, lose, or win, win, lose).

As is often the case, the wording of this rule betrays the tension between being inclusive (providing a good experience for newer/less tournament-savvy players, keeping mechanics related to online play as simple as is manageable) and providing a fair playing experience (trying to ensure games are decided by the gameplay and not out-and-out gamesmanship or blatantly random stuff).

IMO the current stalemate rule strikes a good balance - the "notification" thing keeps it from being a surprise, and the initiative rule deals with the the switch problem 75% of the time without getting too wordy. But I totally understand the opposite viewpoint here - it's very subjective. As the Heroscape-playing and online-playing population "ages" (people are dropping out of the game, and fewer and fewer new players are joining, both in general and online) it makes sense that we would gradually make our rules cover more cases like this.

Anyway, we'll discuss making it more verbose.

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Re: Suggestions for the Online Heroscape Organizers

@Kinseth

The Champions of Valhalla thread incorrectly links the wrong season for Season 16 (It takes you to Season 15) I know Dysole won both so maybe that's the confusion
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