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Old December 6th, 2020, 08:44 AM
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Re: The Book of Outer Space Terrain - VOTE for Initial Phase

Halfway there.
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Old December 6th, 2020, 03:33 PM
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Re: The Book of Outer Space Terrain - VOTE for Initial Phase

I believe we're down to about 26 hours or A3n on the vote here.

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Re: The Book of Outer Space Terrain - VOTE for Initial Phase

Just make an Astroid DO that is a 3 hex rock tile, if attacked and life is reduced to 0, then it is replaced with three 1 hex rock tiles that can then drift apart in different directions. Or 7 hex rock tile that becomes a 3 hex and two 2 hex rock tiles.
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Re: Cosmic Terrain Brainstorming Thread - Breathing

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Nah, I don't see why they have to all go in the same direction. I think it's more fun if the players get to move them around strategically.
but not if one player moves it one way then next time the other player moves it back. Not sure I like this idea of any direction.

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OUTER SPACE TERRAIN RULES (for testing)

Outer Space Terrain rules include rules for two new types of terrain spaces (Cosmos spaces and Asteroid spaces). Outer Space Terrain rules should be used with the Cosmic Space Mat and other Outer Space battlefields, as specified in their map threads.

Cosmos Spaces
Cosmos spaces are 0 height.

When a non-flying figure enters a Cosmic Space they can only move in a straight line and must continue moving in this manner if they can until they either one of the following is true:
  • all of their available movement is used,
  • until they move onto a space of a different terrain type, or
  • the they cannot legally occupy the next space.

Asteroid Spaces
Any rock tile or group of rock tiles seven hexes or smaller group of rock tiles that is not attached to any other hexes and that is placed on top of a Cosmos space is considered an Asteroid space.

Asteroid spaces placed on top of Cosmos spaces are considered to be occupying those Cosmos spaces.

Exposure Damage
At the end of each round, roll one unblockable attack die for exposure damage against each figure you control occupying a Cosmos or Asteroid space. If the figure has Super Strength, it receives a wound on a blank instead of a skull.

Space Drift
Non-fixed objects, including destructible objects, figures, glyphs, obstacles, and non-fixed terrain (including Asteroid hexes and Comets) that occupy Cosmos spaces are affected by Space Drift. If the object has other objects on top of it, those objects will remain on the object and be moved with it.

After rolling for Exposure Damage at the end of each round, following initiative order, players must take turns moving any non-fixed objects affected by Space Drift up to two spaces each in any direction.

Each non-fixed object may only be moved by Space Drift once each round, must be moved as many spaces as possible, and must end this move on a Cosmos space.

If a terrain hex is moved next to another terrain hex this way, they should be joined together. This may result in a non-fixed object becoming fixed terrain.
I still would prefer Gravitational Pull to Space Drift mainly for the fact that there is more rigger around where the objects are moved to & you can't end up with the same object moving backwards & forwards or in circles.

Your mechanism for SD helps the previously questionable part of Gravitational Pull like below.

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Non-fixed objects, including destructible objects, figures, glyphs, obstacles, and non-fixed terrain (including Asteroid hexes and Comets) that occupy Cosmos spaces are affected by Gravitational Pull. If the object has other objects on top of it, those objects will remain on the object and be moved with it.

After rolling for Exposure Damage at the end of each round, following initiative order, players must take turns moving any non-fixed objects affected by Space Drift up to two spaces. The object must end it's movement on a cosmic space that is closer to the nearest non-cosmic space. If one or more non-cosmic spaces are equidistant from the moving object, the player moving the object decides which space it should move closer to.

Each non-fixed object may only be moved by Gravitational Pull once each round, must be moved as many spaces as possible.

If a terrain hex is moved next to another terrain hex this way, they should be joined together. This may result in a non-fixed object becoming fixed terrain.
Can we have a quick poll on the 2 (Space Drift or Gravitational Pull) before moving forward?

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Re: The Book of Outer Space Terrain - VOTE for Initial Phase

Sure! Poll time:

OPTION A

SPACE DRIFT
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OPTION B

GRAVITATIONAL PULL
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OPTION C

NEITHER
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Poll will be open 24 hours at which point I will vote myself and call the poll.

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Re: The Book of Outer Space Terrain - PUBLIC OPINION POLL

I don't care and will let playtesting decide.

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Re: The Book of Outer Space Terrain - PUBLIC OPINION POLL

Fwiw, as someone who's done some initial playing with this (ran two 1,000 point tests on an all Cosmos/Asteroid map) just to feel some things out, A3n's stated concern about people just moving it back and forth isn't a real issue, IMO, just because figures, you know, move during the round. So the state of play isn't the same after a round of that. I don't think the yo-yo concern is really there.

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Re: The Book of Outer Space Terrain - PUBLIC OPINION POLL

No preference. Willing to follow with Bats' lead here.
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Re: The Book of Outer Space Terrain - PUBLIC OPINION POLL

Slight preference for A - Space drift, but I haven't been in here much, excited to see how this turns out
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Re: The Book of Outer Space Terrain - PUBLIC OPINION POLL

Don't have a strong preference either without having actually seen them in play, it's just theoryscape at this point. I do share A3n's concern about players just moving the same piece back and forth though. I could certainly see that happen under the right map build conditions. Maybe just add in a line to Space Drift preventing either player from moving an object back to the same space it occupied the previous round.
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Re: The Book of Outer Space Terrain - PUBLIC OPINION POLL

I will offer a third option.

Take a 7 hexer to use as a compass and orient it with the space map. Then designate the outer hexes 1-6. Now you can randomize direction with a d6.
Alternatively you designate them 1-3, 4-6, 7-9 etc. and then 19-20 is player's choice for a d20 version.
Also note that this could be a really useful tool for AI rules or scatter affects.
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Re: The Book of Outer Space Terrain - PUBLIC OPINION POLL

I (obviously) am for B, and another reason is A isn't space drift. if an object were drifting in space then why would it all of a sudden start drifting in another direction? There is just no thematic sense there. Also with gravitational pull the meteors are more likely to form fixed terrain. These reasons are also applicable to @Tornado 's option above.
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