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Variety vs focus for casual play?
Hi all,
I've started getting into Heroscape just recently, primarily as a miniatures game to play with my kids. Initially I planned to get as broad a variety of units as possible (e.g. buy 1x of several waves) but as I read more on this forum I saw many people recommend buying multiples of specific common squads. How important is that for casual play? I don't expect to play this game outside of with my kids... if I had to choose between buying 1x 4 different waves or 2x 2 different waves what would you recommend? Note - I'm not a fan of proxying and probably wouldn't use that as a workaround. Thanks! Ombok |
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Re: Variety vs focus for casual play?
Common squads' strength is being able to be fielded in multiples, allowing them to stay at full strength even after taking some casualties, which makes them a lot of fun.
On the other hand, one of Heroscape's strengths is its variety, and limiting the different units you own limits that. If it were me, I'd by 1x of 4 different units, play them as 1x for a bit, then when I got tired of my commons getting blasted I'd suck it up and try proxying, then wonder what I ever had against it. |
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Re: Variety vs focus for casual play?
I'd suggest getting both rise of the Valkyrie and swarm of the Marro first. You get a good variety of inexpensive figures. Maybe add Orm's Return or Raknar's Vision if you want some more biggies.
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Re: Variety vs focus for casual play?
I'll beat NYYS to the important bit of advice: see 'scape, buy 'scape. More the better and you'll regret missing out as you (inevitably) get completely hooked.
If you insist on a smidge of sensible restraint though, I'd suggest thinking that commons are only really worth getting if you get two squads of them. Part of the deal with the mechanics is that commons play a bit differently and so you'll get more variety of play with some armies with multiple commons in them. I'd go further and recommend splurging on x5, or something big, of a few squads. Some units work better in hordes and, more importantly, it's again a very different type of play. Games that are Horde vs. Heroes are well-matched and one of my favourite types to play. As for specific advice on which to go big on, read around the site, especially the "Books" threads, and see where it might be worth it. What's out there and cheap is probably the most important determination, but if you're buying by booster either of the soldiers and wolves ones (4th Mass and Anubians in Wave 2 or 10th Foot and Badru in Wave 9(?)) are good for this---you get a fun horde and a powerful one. Other units that I enjoy in 4+ squads: Venoc Vipers (I've used x7 a few times), Romans Legionnaires, Marro Drones, Aubrien Archers, Axegrinders, Minions of Utgar. Definitely a personal take though and others will give you a different list (and I'd probably come up with a different list next week). Happy 'scaping! Edit. Marro Dividers! Get 3 or more squads of those. One of my most-used units at the moment and I forgot it on the first go at the list. |
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Re: Variety vs focus for casual play?
Diversity is the spice of Scape. The more unit options the better. Besides, proxying will be a great option when the kids get the itch for 1000 point games.
My customs. NE Ohio Tourney - TBA SW Ohio Tourney - NHSD 550 points AotV - Colliding the minis of AotP with the world of HS. |
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Re: Variety vs focus for casual play?
Thank you for the advice! I've already picked up both Rise of the Valkyrie and Swarm of Marro. I also got the Marvel set since my son loves superheroes. I hadn't really thought of a horde vs heroes setup but that does sound awesome - I think we'd have a great time doing 2-3 super heroes vs an army of evil.
My main reason for not wanting to proxy is to reduce confusion for the kids (5 yrs old). That said, I reckon I could proxy up a zombie horde using other games easily enough. I'll then see about getting multiples of one of the units recommended by ollie and spend the rest on getting a variety of units. Thanks again! |
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Re: Variety vs focus for casual play?
One other question, given common squads are meant to go in multiples, would it make sense for me to get all the unique squads so I can still field large armies while having diversity?
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Re: Variety vs focus for casual play?
That could be a good idea. If you were to go that route I would suggest looking into some of the VC units. A few can make unique heavy armies fairly competitive. Particularly Kantono Diashi and the ninjas.
Also, if you've got some heroclix lying around, the C3G is a good place to go for more superheroes. |
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Re: Variety vs focus for casual play?
As said before get at least 2x of every common. If you're wondering about diversity, there's no rule saying we can't both have the same common in our army! Don't be afraid to get mutiple commons. Split them up! For example, you'll get 1x 4th and so will I. Throw in Uniques, and you've got great diversity right there.
Oops, rolled a 1. |
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Re: Variety vs focus for casual play?
Ombok, you are in Washington DC???!!
Come to my tournament on March 7 in Savage, Maryland. It is a super kid-friendly atmosphere. You will not be the only dad with kids there, and everyone is super friendly. How friendly, you ask? Three years ago, @Sagrilarus joined us for this exact tournament, bringing his 3 little ones for their first tournament. Here is his write-up, over at Fortress Ameritrash: Quote:
This event we have coming up is the multiplayer event we do once per year. There is no substitute for it, IMHO, when it comes to bringing in new people. We are always pretty chill, but especially so when it's 3 or 4 at a table. I hope you can make it. |
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Re: Variety vs focus for casual play?
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The question then becomes what are the important categories? I'd say something like:
Suppose for the sake of argument that it'll cost you the same amount of dollars per Heroscape point and you want to spend 200pts worth. You have some biggish 150+pt hitters already (Tor-Kul-Na, Q10, Mimring) so adding another will not add as much variety as, say, Dividers x4. Something like Omnicrons x2 is debatable---it'll give you more commons but they are not drastically different to the Stingers x2 and Drudge x2 you already have. And the big-hitting monsters are some of the coolest units in the game, so if you can get hold of those that's a good choice too (although I'd prioritise at least one commons x3+ first). But the $$/pt ratio won't be anything like constant and so really grabbing what you can at the best prices you can find will almost certainly fill up your collection nicely. (And go to Dad_Scaper's event!) |
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