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Old February 10th, 2009, 02:41 PM
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Re: The Book of Fyorlag Spiders

I think we need to see more bugs/predators in future releases before they get their fair share of playing time. Not enough choices to bond Sujoah with, nor like species for themed armies.

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Re: The Book of Fyorlag Spiders

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I think we need to see more bugs/predators in future releases before they get their fair share of playing time. Not enough choices to bond Sujoah with, nor like species for themed armies.
I think it's sad that Dünd wasn't a predator. The Spiders could have given him the hand up he needed, and he could have given the spiders the second bonding Hero they need.

Plus, it would be a nightmare for your opponent's order markers
I would hope that the testers would find that combo a tad to powerful.

OM1: Spiders. Bond with Dünd. Zap 1 marker off a squad, then zap another off a hero. (If you guess right you eliminate their OM1)
OM2: Repeat. (Aim for OM2)
OM3: Repeat. (Aim for OM3)

I'm thinking thats a bit harsh; especially if you find Dagmar on the field.

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I think we need to see more bugs/predators in future releases before they get their fair share of playing time. Not enough choices to bond Sujoah with, nor like species for themed armies.
I think it's sad that Dünd wasn't a predator. The Spiders could have given him the hand up he needed, and he could have given the spiders the second bonding Hero they need.

Plus, it would be a nightmare for your opponent's order markers
I would hope that the testers would find that combo a tad to powerful.

OM1: Spiders. Bond with Dünd. Zap 1 marker off a squad, then zap another off a hero. (If you guess right you eliminate their OM1)
OM2: Repeat. (Aim for OM2)
OM3: Repeat. (Aim for OM3)

I'm thinking thats a bit harsh; especially if you find Dagmar on the field.
Hmm. I'm not sure. I've never had the Spiders take a marker off, but to be fair, I've only ever played with one squad, and even then only a few games. I've also never had Dünd do a whole lot, and that's not for lack of trying. I agree it would be a powerful combo, but I don't really think it would be too powerful. Perhaps I will try a game with Dünd as a predator to see. I'm not big on house rules and prefer to play everything as the designers intended, but I'd like to try a game or two and see what it's like. If someone else would like to try this and let me know how it goes, I'd appreciate it (+rep). I'm currently separated from my HeroScape for another five months.

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I think we need to see more bugs/predators in future releases before they get their fair share of playing time. Not enough choices to bond Sujoah with, nor like species for themed armies.
I think it's sad that Dünd wasn't a predator. The Spiders could have given him the hand up he needed, and he could have given the spiders the second bonding Hero they need.

Plus, it would be a nightmare for your opponent's order markers
I would hope that the testers would find that combo a tad to powerful.

OM1: Spiders. Bond with Dünd. Zap 1 marker off a squad, then zap another off a hero. (If you guess right you eliminate their OM1)
OM2: Repeat. (Aim for OM2)
OM3: Repeat. (Aim for OM3)

I'm thinking thats a bit harsh; especially if you find Dagmar on the field.
Hmm. I'm not sure. I've never had the Spiders take a marker off, but to be fair, I've only ever played with one squad, and even then only a few games. I've also never had Dünd do a whole lot, and that's not for lack of trying. I agree it would be a powerful combo, but I don't really think it would be too powerful. Perhaps I will try a game with Dünd as a predator to see. I'm not big on house rules and prefer to play everything as the designers intended, but I'd like to try a game or two and see what it's like. If someone else would like to try this and let me know how it goes, I'd appreciate it (+rep). I'm currently separated from my HeroScape for another five months.

I can do that, my friend! I'm interested in the concept of Dund as a Predator as well!


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Re: The Book of Fyorlag Spiders

interestingly, the fylorag spiders are the only terrain pack squad that does not have an ability related to their terrain. they are also the only terrain pack unit that is considered useful outside certain circumstances.

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interestingly, the fylorag spiders are the only terrain pack squad that does not have an ability related to their terrain. they are also the only terrain pack unit that is considered useful outside certain circumstances.
Not quite. While not mentioned on the card, Fyorlag Spiders are so small, your opponent will easily overlook a unit carefully placed next to a Jungle bush or tree.

Also, Dumutev Guards are fun to play with. Onacara fielded four in the last tournament, and he did quite well. And Ollie didn't do to awefull with his Obsidian Guards in a tournament either, although they obviously get much stronger on a Lava map.

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interestingly, the fylorag spiders are the only terrain pack squad that does not have an ability related to their terrain. they are also the only terrain pack unit that is considered useful outside certain circumstances.
It's a good thing too, since they're currently the backbone of Aquilla's army...

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Re: The Book of Fyorlag Spiders

I never even draft them when I take Sujoah.
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I never even draft them when I take Sujoah.
Your loss...They're not great by any means, but they're hardly a huge investment. I say you may as well...

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Re: The Book of Fyorlag Spiders

I'm growing to really like the Spiders. I was using them in an army with the Venoc Warlord and Venoc Vipers, and found them to be a great combo.

First off, there's an interesting synergy between them-- the Spiders take turns away from your opponent's army while the Venocs give turns to your own army-- if both entangled web and Frenzy are working, these guys are downright deadly.

Aside from that, the Spiders are great at tying up figures. Not as good as the Reavers, but they have some advantages. When teamed with the Venoc Warlord, of course, they can tie up figures earlier and further away than the rats, and maybe have a better chance of reaching your opponent's ranged units quickly.

The other advantage is that they're only Size 2; I'm impressed with how well they could keep engaged units from gaining height-- if you want to gain more than 1 level on these guys, you have to risk a disengagement strike.

And I don't think the combo of 7(+2 w/ VW) Move and 2 Attack/Defense is bad-- they can usually get height on whoever their attacking and are pretty much guaranteed first strike against a melee opponent.

Yeah, I like these guys a lot, even if Sujoah is not included...
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Re: The Book of Fyorlag Spiders

Okay, so Elgin uses the spiders without Sujoah, and A-Train uses Sujoah without the spiders...why don't you guys just use them together as God intended it when he inspired the minds of the developers?

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Re: The Book of Fyorlag Spiders

This unit receives an attack enhancement from Brave Arrow

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