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Re: The Book of Sunfire - Design Phase

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Re: The Book of Sunfire - Design Phase

B is the clear winner here, and probably my preference, so SP updated to Defender. If anybody has any better suggestions for a class without any synergy, feel free to post them as I'm not entirely sold on Defender being the most thematic option. But in the meantime, I propose we move Sunfire to Initial Playtesting:

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Re: The Book of Sunfire - Vote for Initial Playtest

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Re: The Book of Sunfire - Vote for Initial Playtest

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Re: The Book of Sunfire - Vote for Initial Playtest

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Re: The Book of Sunfire - Vote for Initial Playtest

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Re: The Book of Sunfire - Vote for Initial Playtest

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Re: The Book of Sunfire - Design Phase

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I propose we move Sunfire to Initial Playtesting:

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This proposal passes.

I probably won't start on the Initial right away (focusing on the JSA right now), but I'll get to it at some point.

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Re: The Book of Sunfire - Initial Playtest

Here's the start to the Initial with the first three army tests. I'm pretty happy with Sunfire, but I want to make some tweaks before finishing the Initial. In particular, Honorable Defender isn't quite powerful enough to really warrant putting the "X" on him (in the second game below it probably hurt his team that I did, though thanks to his really good rolls in the third it did help out some). I'd like to make Honorable Defender a little stronger, and then try him at 240-250 points.

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Sunfire (@220)

Army Test 1
Map: Swamp Lab (no glyphs or special rules)
Units: Sunfire, Professor X, Jean Grey, Blob, Meggan (990 points) VS Gorilla City Warriors x4, Solovar, Gorilla Grodd (985 points)
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Army Test 2
Map: Swamp Lab (no glyphs or special rules)
Units: Sunfire, Sage, Mister Sinister, Wild Child, Wolverine, Jubilee (1,250 points) VS Cosmic Boy, Lightning Lad, Karate Kid, Superboy (Kal-L), Timber Wolf (1,260 points)
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Army Test 3
Map: Swamp Lab (no glyphs or special rules)
Units: Sunfire, Sage, Mister Sinister, Wild Child, Wolverine, Jubilee (1,250 points) VS Cosmic Boy, Lightning Lad, Karate Kid, Superboy (Kal-L), Timber Wolf (1,260 points)
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There are plenty of ways to make Honorable Defender strong, but the one that I think would be most interesting and fun would be to do:

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After a figure you control in or within 4 spaces of your Start Zone is attacked by an opponent's figure and receives 1 or more wounds, if that defending figure is within clear sight of Sunfire, you may reveal an "X" Order Marker on this card to immediately move Sunfire up to 6 spaces. After this move, if the attacking figure is within 6 clear sight spaces of Sunfire, roll X unblockable attack dice against that figure, where X equals the number of wounds the defending figure received during that attack.
It's potentially much more powerful, but the clear sight limitation gives your opponent some options for bypassing it (either by taking down Sunfire first or using LoS blockers). It's also wordier, but the card is relatively trim right now. We can toss a cap on the end too if we're concerned about him getting to roll 4+ dice.

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Re: The Book of Sunfire - Initial Playtest

I don't think a cap is necessary. If your other figure received 8 wounds from that attack, you're hurting pretty badly, so even if he gets the +8 to his attack, you're probably still on the losing end of that exchange.

I'm cool with the change.

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Re: The Book of Sunfire - Initial Playtest

Well I was going to say that a cap would be a good idea due to common figures being able to take a bunch of wounds and triggering his power, until I caught that your other change means that you won't be able to use Honorable Defender if the figure is destroyed. Seems a bit weird with that, but I'm good with it overall.

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Re: The Book of Sunfire - Initial Playtest

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Well I was going to say that a cap would be a good idea due to common figures being able to take a bunch of wounds and triggering his power, until I caught that your other change means that you won't be able to use Honorable Defender if the figure is destroyed. Seems a bit weird with that, but I'm good with it overall.
Hmm, hadn't thought about it like that. I don't want it abusable with commons, but I'd prefer that it work even when a figure is destroyed.

Maybe add a cap but cut the clear sight restriction?

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HONORABLE DEFENDER
After any other figure you control in or within 4 spaces of your Start Zone is attacked by an opponent's figure and receives 1 or more wounds, you may reveal an "X" Order Marker on this card to immediately move Sunfire up to 6 spaces. After this move, if the attacking figure is within 6 clear sight spaces of Sunfire, roll X unblockable attack dice against that figure, where X equals the number of wounds the defending figure received during that attack, to a maximum of 3 dice.

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