Trial of Victor the Pure Blood and Slitters

[Roland]

This trial is for Gidian's Slitters, and Victor the pure blood
Judges are: Lord_Mortis, Nos13, Roland

Originally Posted by Gidian

Figures: Dreamblade - Jack of Blades



The Slitters should be played together with their master to take advantage of the bleeding ability:

Figure: Mage Knight - Order of Vladd

Use them instead of Cyprien and Sonya in an undead army.
Play against heroes to take advantage of bleeding

Any and all comments/suggestions appreciated.

[PhoenixTitan]

I like them, and if you actually have the figures, is Victor a Carr repaint?

[NecroBlade]

That figure is Order of Vladd from the Mage Knight Rebellion set. http://www.wizkidsgames.com/mageknig...sp?unitid=1322

[chief]

The slitters look good. But im afraid that their hero might be a little under priced. His powers look good and his stats. They equal out all together from what I can tell. But I think the price should be raised a little.

[Lord_Mortis]

First impression is that Victor may be a little undercosted, at 5 life, 6 defense, and the ability to heal himself. He's no Cyprien, but throw him up against a bleeding Hero and he's a death dealer.

I think the wording on some of the abilities needs to be changed to seem a little more official. The Slitters ability seems to work only against Heroes, so maybe it should read something along the lines of "When Slitters cause a wound against a Unique Hero...."

Life Drain should be changed to the more official Life Drain ability like those on the Esenwein's cards.

Something about the Scent of Blood's wording strikes me funny. I think the first part should read something like "Victor the Pure-Blood may move up to 3 additional spaces as long as he ends his move adjacent to a Bleeding Hero."

Other than that, I think these guys are going to make players think twice before sending a unique hero out into their direction. With the Slitters move of 6, disengage, and their Slitting ability, they can cause a wound on one hero, then move onto another, leaving the bleeding heroes vulnerable to Victor's attacks.

[Hades]

Nice concepts! Agree the wording needs to be cleaned up tho. Like the use of your slitter figures. I have the same figure posted in my customs as a hero tho

[Gidian]

Feel free to change the wording - it´s just a try of translating it from German into English.

About the costs of Victor I haven't been quite sure. He can be very effective if he reaches a bleeding opponent but it´s always a risk to play him because he is worthless if his Slitters don't slit anyone (with defense 2, they are easy to kill, that´s why I gave them disengage). And he is only strong against other heros because of his normal attack of 2. If he is engaged by some squad figures it would be hard for him to free himself.

But maybe the combination of Life Drain, Defense 6 and Life 5 is too strong. How about reducing his life to 4?

And because we never player one of the vampires, I´m not quite sure how strong Life Drain really is. But maybe you are right and the points should be slightly increased. Maybe to 120? But you souldn´t forget that it´s necessarily to play the Slitters together with him - at least two times. So the combination would cost 230 to 250 points. That´s quite a lot.

Greetings from Germany

Gidian

[NecroBlade]

Don't forget Empress Kiova & 2x Imperium costs 370, so I don't think you should worry too much if they're found to be 230ish together.

[Lord_Mortis]

I think, for now, that leaving Victor's stats where they are but raising his cost to at least 125 sounds about right.

[NecroBlade]

Along with the other customs currently on trial, I will try to get some playtesting done this weekend.

[Lord_Mortis]

Been playtesting these guys in a few games. Will get some results up when I have time.

[Gidian]

I´m quite excited what you think of them after playtesting.