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Old March 1st, 2014, 06:37 PM
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Re: Holocron of 2-1B (Brainstorming Phase)

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And also, it just occurred to me, should his healing be limited to non-droids? After all droids are electronic.
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Personally, I don't think we meant one way or the other (Unique/Common/Uncommon Hero) when we put it on the list. The design process and the group consensus drive what the design ends up being.
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I agree with Porkins on this.
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Old March 1st, 2014, 06:43 PM
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Re: Holocron of 2-1B (Brainstorming Phase)

Okay, I added the droid exclusion in the power (can a grammar editor check?) I personally think that the number of figures is not enough for uncommons really, so I'd say let's keep it at unique.

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Re: Holocron of 2-1B (Brainstorming Phase)

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Okay, I added the droid exclusion in the power (can a grammar editor check?) I personally think that the number of figures is not enough for uncommons really, so I'd say let's keep it at unique.
Droid needs capitalized but other than that it looks good.

As far as "not enough figures for uncommons"... I know C3G and C3V look at prices and availability when making units and allow that to dictate some of what they do but we (HoSS) haven't really. If we let availability dictate us, A-Zulman probably wouldn't have a figure (abprices shows ~10 right now). If we let prices dictate us, there's no way we'd ever do either Fett, Jabba, or Obi-Wan, Padawan (just to name a few - I don't think we'd be able to make a Mace Windu either *gasps*). Those figures are priced at ~$20 for the cheapest figure.

I'm fine either way, but I'm just pointing out the facts that we wouldn't be able to do a lot of what we want to do if we let prices and availability guide us.

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Old March 1st, 2014, 06:59 PM
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Re: Holocron of 2-1B (Brainstorming Phase)

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Okay, I added the droid exclusion in the power (can a grammar editor check?) I personally think that the number of figures is not enough for uncommons really, so I'd say let's keep it at unique.
Droid needs capitalized but other than that it looks good.

As far as "not enough figures for uncommons"... I know C3G and C3V look at prices and availability when making units and allow that to dictate some of what they do but we (HoSS) haven't really. If we let availability dictate us, A-Zulman probably wouldn't have a figure (abprices shows ~10 right now). If we let prices dictate us, there's no way we'd ever do either Fett, Jabba, or Obi-Wan, Padawan (just to name a few - I don't think we'd be able to make a Mace Windu either *gasps*). Those figures are priced at ~$20 for the cheapest figure.

I'm fine either way, but I'm just pointing out the facts that we wouldn't be able to do a lot of what we want to do if we let prices and availability guide us.
Okay, let me think about that tonight; I'm arguing for both sides in my head.

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Old March 1st, 2014, 07:30 PM
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Re: Holocron of 2-1B (Brainstorming Phase)

If I can throw out my :
I would go unique so that the other could be common/uncommon, that way 2-1B could be a a leader type figure for the FX-7 droids, which would be interesting for game play and would be thematic.


Also an excerpt from a book I have entitled Starwars Head-to-Head Tag Teams
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Jawas aboard a massive sandcrawler are forcing their droid captives to fight for survival. Some of the more crafty tinkerers among the scavengers have modified a pair of medical droids to go on the offensive. Ordinarily such droids could never comprehend harming another living being. Reprogramming these mechanical doctors to dismantle fellow droids, however, is well within the capability of a mischievous Jawa. At first the, medical droids are hesitant to take to their new programming, but upon sensor confirmation that their targets are not living organic beings, they raise their improvised weapons. They are used to operating as a team, analyzing each other's strengths, and compensating for the other's weaknesses.
The book notes 2-1B as a surgical droid in a little stat table under droid type while FX-7 is a medical assistant droid. The two were paired against IT-0 and 8D8. They ended up winning. I bring up the quote because he has an attack of 0, but maybe it could be bumped up to 1 but give him a power that allows him to attack other droids, but incapable of attacking non-droids, which could be game changing if its just him against maybe a non-organic.

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Old March 1st, 2014, 07:58 PM
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Re: Holocron of 2-1B (Brainstorming Phase)

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If I can throw out my :
I would go unique so that the other could be common/uncommon, that way 2-1B could be a a leader type figure for the FX-7 droids, which would be interesting for game play and would be thematic.


Also an excerpt from a book I have entitled Starwars Head-to-Head Tag Teams
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Jawas aboard a massive sandcrawler are forcing their droid captives to fight for survival. Some of the more crafty tinkerers among the scavengers have modified a pair of medical droids to go on the offensive. Ordinarily such droids could never comprehend harming another living being. Reprogramming these mechanical doctors to dismantle fellow droids, however, is well within the capability of a mischievous Jawa. At first the, medical droids are hesitant to take to their new programming, but upon sensor confirmation that their targets are not living organic beings, they raise their improvised weapons. They are used to operating as a team, analyzing each other's strengths, and compensating for the other's weaknesses.
The book notes 2-1B as a surgical droid in a little stat table under droid type while FX-7 is a medical assistant droid. The two were paired against IT-0 and 8D8. They ended up winning. I bring up the quote because he has an attack of 0, but maybe it could be bumped up to 1 but give him a power that allows him to attack other droids, but incapable of attacking non-droids, which could be game changing if its just him against maybe a non-organic.
That could work, and the FX-7 could be uncommon. Thanks for the idea, Crixus! How does the current card look with that wording guys?

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Re: Holocron of 2-1B (Brainstorming Phase)

That looks pretty good. I think I agree with Unique Hero. About about 4/3 for Life/Defense?

As for reworking the wording for Medical Assistant...

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Before using the Field Medic special power on this card, you may choose an Uncommon Medical Droid with the Field Medic Special Power within 3 clear sight spaces of 2-1B to be 2-1B's Medical Assistant for this turn. Place the chosen Medical Assistant adjacent to 2-1B. If 2-1B chooses a figure adjacent to his Medical Assistant for his Field Medic special power, you may remove up to 2 wounds from the chosen figure's Army Card.
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Old March 1st, 2014, 10:09 PM
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Re: Holocron of 2-1B (Brainstorming Phase)

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That looks pretty good. I think I agree with Unique Hero. About about 4/3 for Life/Defense?

As for reworking the wording for Medical Assistant...

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Before using the Field Medic special power on this card, you may choose an Uncommon Medical Droid with the Field Medic Special Power within 3 clear sight spaces of 2-1B to be 2-1B's Medical Assistant for this turn. Place the chosen Medical Assistant adjacent to 2-1B. If 2-1B chooses a figure adjacent to his Medical Assistant for his Field Medic special power, you may remove up to 2 wounds from the chosen figure's Army Card.
Yeah, that is probably better wording. I'd say life 4, defense 3 so he doesn't die right away at around 50 points for when playtesting starts. That sound about right?

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Re: Holocron of 2-1B (Brainstorming Phase)

Actually, what about 3 life? 3PO has 3 life, 4 move, 1 Range, 0 Attack, and 1 Defense so the 2-1B would just have 2 extra defense.

As for points, R2 is 30pts, so 2-1B could be 20pts, I think.
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Re: Holocron of 2-1B (Brainstorming Phase)

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Actually, what about 3 life? 3PO has 3 life, 4 move, 1 Range, 0 Attack, and 1 Defense so the 2-1B would just have 2 extra defense.

As for points, R2 is 30pts, so 2-1B could be 20pts, I think.
Yeah, two extra defense and one life is probably be too much. Let me think more about the points, I'm just thinking that the command could be good. I am willing to go down though in cost.

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Re: Holocron of 2-1B (Brainstorming Phase)

C-3PO moving around the battlefield with 2-1B as an Insignificant shield would make an interesting pair.

I'm not sold on the Medical Assistant power yet...

Also, I'm thinking that 20 points is too low for a healer with an average life and defense.
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