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Re: Colossus - Design Phase
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The purpose of enhancing Wolverine further is that is the most famous iteration of the Fastball Special: Colossus throwing Wolveirne. I wanted to encourage that interaction (and no, not any fighter). The purpose of adding something to the (first) attack is to give you a reason to move Colossus over and throw someone since, elevations aside, chances are a lot of figures could move far enough to attack with an OM of their own. Arena of the Valkyire - Help create Heroscape's next Master Set! Trade List C3V Brainstorm never not funny Pepperony - 14/09/13 |
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Re: Colossus - Design Phase
And Colossus is also giving up his own attack to make this attack, so it should be better than just if they attacked on their own. I agree with keeping the +1. I could still see going "Fighter" with the auto skull (or would +2 work better?) - the Wolverine association would still be clear.
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Re: Colossus - Design Phase
I debated +2 but went with auto-skull since a) he could throw figures with Deadly Strike or similar powers; and b) it takes out the possibility of 2 skulls, which, based on feedback so far, would seem like a bit much.
Also, be glad I love the C3G. I posted this thread last night because I was staying up to win, on eBay, Quasatch Hunters which I need to complete (and I mean complete) my collection. I hadn't bid yet, but was going to at the last minute (and it would've worked, too). But I decided to post Colossus while the auction ticked down, my browser screwed up and almost lost the whole post, and by the time I got it fixed the Quasatch were someone else's. Arena of the Valkyire - Help create Heroscape's next Master Set! Trade List C3V Brainstorm never not funny Pepperony - 14/09/13 |
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Re: Colossus - Design Phase
Heh. I think C3G loves you too.
The auto skull thing still looks a bit confusing when you read it, I think, but I'll have to toss it around in my mind and come up with an alternate suggestion if I really want to make an issue out of it. C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
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C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: Colossus - Design Phase
Why would you be 'leaving points on the table' if you don't draft Wolverine? Realistically, there should be no cost built in in case you draft both. It's a situational power that already has a lot of points built into it (280 + ~260). If you draft Colossus, you draft him for the ability to throw anyone and be a tank. The Wolverine interaction is just icing (and only 50% better icing than the generic +1).
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Yeah, what I mean, though, is I would feel like I wasn't taking full advantage of my choice to include Colossus in my army unless I took that 50% better icing.
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DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: Colossus - Design Phase
I certainly sympathize with that point; I always want to get all benefits possible out of a card. But points getting left on the table happens, especially with units that end in 5 (which is why I enjoy designing units that end in 5). Points could be left if you don't get Valiant or Disciplined Defense bonuses (though honestly the first one isn't that big a deal since the 4th are good anyway); if your AE don't Drop; if there are no Utgar figures opposing Ana Karithon; if you fill 90 points with Atlaga for a 25% chance insta-kill-anything with no other Kyrie; heck, if you take Axegrinders and none of the Dwarf Heroes. All of which aren't likely to happen, but they're possible. I just want people to want to play Colossus/Wolverine, but not feel like they have to (which a +1/auto-skull bonus accomplishes better than nothing/+1, IMO).
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Re: Colossus - Design Phase
WOW!!! You go away for a few days and... WOW! I am lovign the direction of Colossus! I like his relative simplicity, he is obviously the X-Men Tank (in every sense of the word) and I love where Fastball is heading. Perhaps, the clause about Wolverine should come first, like "choose a small or medium figure. If the figure is Wolverine... For any other figure chosen,..." This would, I believe, make it more clear. Again, great stuff going here. Colossus has long been my favorite X-man and you are doing a great job with him.
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Re: Colossus - Design Phase
I want to play Colossus/Wolverine and I don't need any bonus.
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Re: Colossus - Design Phase
Good suggestion Spidey! And quozl, you're not helping.
How's this? FASTBALL SPECIAL Instead of attacking, choose an adjacent small or medium figure you control to throw. Place the chosen figure on any empty space within 5 clear sight spaces of Colossus and that figure may immediately attack normally. If the chosen figure is Wolverine 1 automatic skull to whatever is rolled. For any other chosen figure, add 1 attack die. Fastball Special may only be used if the chosen figure is unengaged and can be placed adjacent to an enemy figure. Arena of the Valkyire - Help create Heroscape's next Master Set! Trade List C3V Brainstorm never not funny Pepperony - 14/09/13 |
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