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Re: The Book of Judge Hershey

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I'm also not sure you need this last line.
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For the entire game, all Judge figures you control may use the Lawgiver Armour Piercing Round Special Attack. When the Lawgiver Armour Piercing Round Special Attack refers to Judge Hershey, it instead refers to the attacking Judge.
If Lawgiver said "the attacking figure" instead of Judge Hershey, you wouldn't. But as written, it's necessary. Otherwise the attack comes from Hershey even if another figure is attacking.

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Re: The Book of Judge Hershey

The last line isnt needed by current C3G rules.


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Old June 5th, 2021, 11:08 PM
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Re: The Book of Judge Hershey

Ah, I see. That's a good rule.
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Re: The Book of Judge Hershey

In case anyone wants the long and drawn out explanation version --

Basically we just ruled that anytime a figure uses it's own name in a power it's really saying 'this figure' and so if a power gets copied over the 'this figure' is whoever borrowed the power. We've also tightened up name call out stuff so like if someone did want to give other Judges attacks that still shoot out from Judge Anderson (for some reason ) you could actually do that by saying something like "choose 8 spaces in a straight line from a figure named Judge Anderson you control" or something like that.

The ruling let's us cut out a big chunk of pretty useless wording in copy powers going forward (older ones will be updated eventually, but its not a functional change so we haven't been going after it right now). Since like, when would you not want it to work that way? We've been trying to make an effort to get rid of weird 'spell out the default' stuff in C3G lingo since it's just confusing for peeps.

This one is arguably something that was already true in classic scape anyway. When Marvel Scape did a copy powers mechanic in one of the scenarios it didn't have any 'but now it says this figure instead of that figure' lingo. And there's a ruling somewhere abouts that uses similar 'it really means this figure' logic to explain why your Raelin can't channel her aura through every other figure named Raelin in the game.


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Re: The Book of Judge Hershey

Lawgiver Armor Piercing special is missing range/attack values on the card
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Re: The Book of Judge Hershey

Looks like the SP is correct. @japes

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Re: The Book of Judge Hershey

Since this needs a card update, there's a couple wording updates I'd suggest. Special Attack shouldn't be capitalized in the red bits.

You also don't technically need the last line in Heavy Ordnance (otherwise any figure borrowing/stealing special powers wouldn't work), but I'm guessing it's there to avoid any misunderstandings about where the 6-space straight line is coming from.

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For the entire game, all Judge figures you control may use the Lawgiver Armour Piercing Round Special Attack. When the Lawgiver Armour Piercing Round Special Attack refers to Judge Hershey, it instead refers to the attacking Judge.

LAWGIVER ARMOUR PIERCING ROUND SPECIAL ATTACK
Range Special. Attack 6.
Choose 6 spaces in a straight line from Judge Hershey. All figures on those spaces are affected by this special attack. Roll attack dice once for all affected figures. Roll defense dice for the figure closest to Judge Hershey. If that figure receives a wound, roll defense dice for the next closest figure. Continue rolling defense until no wounds are inflicted or all affected figures have rolled for defense. This special attack may only be used by this figure once per round.
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Re: The Book of Judge Hershey

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Since this needs a card update, there's a couple wording updates I'd suggest. Special Attack shouldn't be capitalized in the red bits.

You also don't technically need the last line in Heavy Ordnance (otherwise any figure borrowing/stealing special powers wouldn't work), but I'm guessing it's there to avoid any misunderstandings about where the 6-space straight line is coming from.

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For the entire game, all Judge figures you control may use the Lawgiver Armour Piercing Round Special Attack. When the Lawgiver Armour Piercing Round Special Attack refers to Judge Hershey, it instead refers to the attacking Judge.

LAWGIVER ARMOUR PIERCING ROUND SPECIAL ATTACK
Range Special. Attack 6.
Choose 6 spaces in a straight line from Judge Hershey. All figures on those spaces are affected by this special attack. Roll attack dice once for all affected figures. Roll defense dice for the figure closest to Judge Hershey. If that figure receives a wound, roll defense dice for the next closest figure. Continue rolling defense until no wounds are inflicted or all affected figures have rolled for defense. This special attack may only be used by this figure once per round.
couldn't you just change the first line in LAPR SA to something like this to get around that issue

Choose 6 spaces in a straight line from this Judge.
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Re: The Book of Judge Hershey

The line is just there becuase this is a card from before we got rid of that pointless wording.

We should just drop it from the card, no need to change anything else. Spelling out the default or wording something different just in case someone doesnt know how the rules work just leads to problems later on. People need to know how the rules work to play the game.

If we're really worried about people playing it in a crazy non-sense way, add a R&C saying not to do that. That's what R&Cs are for, they don't belong on the card.


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Re: The Book of Judge Hershey

Card art doesn't have "Range Special. Attack 6."

EDIT: Posted without reading the thread. Already pointed out.
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Re: The Book of Judge Hershey

@japes this has needed an update for a couple of months now.
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Re: The Book of Judge Hershey

SP was last edited in July and Archie made a comment in August. So I'd guess I was waiting for clarification or decision there before I updated.

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