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Old July 3rd, 2010, 09:25 PM
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Re: Human Torch - Design Phase

That's what I said.

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Re: Human Torch - Design Phase

What if the Flame On 4 merely allowed him to roll leaving engagement attacks on them? So in essense he either ignites or not, and then he rolls to see if others take damage from him. This cuts it from a 85% chance to like 42.5% chance to wound each adjacent figure. I see it as kinda a reverse leaving engagement attack because of the fire.

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Old July 4th, 2010, 10:18 PM
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Re: Human Torch - Design Phase

I don't like it - why'd he want to risk leaving engagement attacks just to give them? I'm also not at all sure how you could word that without it being really confusing.

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Re: Human Torch - Design Phase

OK - still waiting to hear from GreyOwl and Hahma whether they prefer the Flame On 14 or Flame On 4 on the first post (both of which may be tweaked based on comments in this thread).

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OK - still waiting to hear from GreyOwl and Hahma whether they prefer the Flame On 14 or Flame On 4 on the first post (both of which may be tweaked based on comments in this thread).
I thought Hahma said he liked Flame on 4.

EDIT: Well if he did, it wasn't in this thread, because I just looked. I guess we are waiting.... Perhaps a PM would be a good attention getter Bats.
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Re: Human Torch - Design Phase

Meh, no hurries. You can pm them if you really want.

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Meh, no hurries. You can pm them if you really want.
I am just starting to wonder if they are even aware of this thread. So hurrying or not, you may wait forever if they don't know about this thread.
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I am just starting to wonder if they are even aware of this thread. So hurrying or not, we may wait forever if they don't know about this thread.
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Re: Human Torch - Design Phase

Flame On 4, because the other one doesn't sound as thematic to me. He doesn't usually fly over people leaving a trail of burning bodies in his wake.
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Re: Human Torch - Design Phase

OK, that's 4 in favor of 4 now, with Hahma having the possibility of pushing things over the edge in favor of 4 or putting us in gridlock.

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Re: Human Torch - Design Phase

For right now I'd go with Flame On 4. During playtesting we'd find out if it's too powerful. I think it has a chance of giving the FF4 a squad busting power. Opponent's would need to decide whether to keep their squaddies close together to maximize chance for HT to take LE wounds, or keep them spread apart and be willing to sacrifice a single squaddie for a pretty automatic death rather than risk a bunch of them dying together for the slim chance of giving HT LE wounds. The biggest hurt to it would be vs. Unique squads and it bypassing Disappear for Ninjas and Counter Strike for Samurai, but that shouldn't be too problematic because if they engage him and don't kill him, that's their problem.

Playtesting will tell and at least 1 army test per playtester would require HT to face at least a couple squads. Though, he'll also have to be tested with it with Mr. Fantastic and the rest of the group because between IW protection and Mr. Fantastic's OM management power, HT may be impervious to wounds and get free activations to cause problems vs. squads. I'm not too concerned about vs. Heroes, though he could put an easy last wound on a figure like Darkseid or someone with crazy good defense, but he'd still have to start out engaged to them and risk that.

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