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Old May 9th, 2008, 03:59 PM
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Just_a_Bill's RotV-box Heroscape Collection Storage System

A few months ago I mouthed off about my cheapo storage system that's almost entirely based on RotV boxes. Well, here's the visual tour. Unfortunately this is more of a vanity page than a tutorial; if you want to try these stunts at home, you'd probably need to modify my methods to accommodate your particular collection anyway. Also, the images here are quite sub-par; my digitial camera is old and I am a terrible photographer. Don't bother clicking any of these pictures to try to zoom; I made them all exactly 400 pixels wide for the sake of browser efficiency (and because they'd look even worse if blown up!)

Let's start with what the boxes look like in my game closet:
Almost my entire collection is in RotV boxes. My rulebooks, synergy charts, etc. are in that 1/2-inch white view binder on the right.

Each box has one or more hexagonal labels on the end to tell me what's inside:
You've probably noticed that these labels owe a debt of gratitude to some very talented individuals. Those excellent single-hex tile icons come from the Heroscape Omnibus, and a few of the miscellaneous bits are Jezztek's gorgeous component shots from BoardGameGeek. Most or all of the rest are Hasbro product shots (but if I missed crediting somebody, please PM me so I can correct the oversight).

The labels are printed on Post-It Photo Paper I found on clearance at Office Max, and then laminated on the top. The lamination gives them thickness and durability, and the post-it glue allows me to reposition them as my collection grows and I have to shuffle things around.
The tile boxes are kind of boring; here's my Rock box:
Each stack of tiles in this box is full except for one 24-hex tile. This crappy photo makes it look like the other tiles are at different heights, but that's an optical illusion. The real explanation is that I just don't always connect everything together. I tend to connect all the tiles of a particular shape into a little cluster, but leave them separate from the other clusters of different tile shapes. Fortunately the boxes have just enough wiggle room that this works out okay, and it makes getting them out a little faster when I'm building a map. Eventually I will make some nice little vertical dividers to keep the tile groups from spontaneously connecting themselves (which sometimes happens during handling).

As my collection changes, I shuffle things around to different boxes in an attempt to keep it all packed efficiently. As of this writing, sand, road, water, and my "rock overflow" are bunkmates:
Note that this storage system has given me an irrational desire to collect my tiles in multiples of eight! (If you have a few extra tiles you want to contribute to the Just_a_Bill Mental Health Initiative, check my trade list and let's see what we can work out.)

Here's a close-up on the water (one sparkly, one opaque):
Most of my flat tiles (water, ice, lava) are packed in Ziploc Snack Bags. These are just about the perfect size and shape to keep 21 water or ice tiles, or 22 lava tiles, snugly organized. (And no, the rest of the box wasn't wasted, as you'll see a little later.)
Tundra was a little tricky, since the glaciers just barely fit (actually, they are ever so slightly too large, since the RotV inner drawer uses thicker cardboard than the Thaelenk Tundra inner drawer). I ended up using the plastic inserts from the original TT boxes, because they keep the glaciers at the optimal angle for sitting in the box properly. Fortunately, one RotV box accommodates both of my Thaelenk Tundra sets, plus the extra snow from my figure expansions:
Note again the snack bags, this time holding 21 tiles of ice each. I clipped off the little plastic tabs at the edges of the two plastic inserts so the inserts would sit as flat as possible. Even so, the glaciers are still snug. (If you go back and look at the first photograph, you'll notice that my Tundra box is on top of the stack; I don't want to take a chance that the weight of other boxes might bend or crack one of the glaciers.) I am not very happy with this box, because it's a real pain to get to the snow and ice underneath the glaciers, and an even bigger pain to stack it properly when it's time to put it all back in the box. I may eventually just move all the terrain tiles to a different box and live with the space inefficiency, because I will gain time efficiency.

My "miscellaneous" box is not very well organized:
What a mess. The only thing to be proud of in this cacophony of components is something you can't even really see. I used snack ziplocs again to make a bag of basic pieces for each of four players. Each bag includes a bunch of combat dice, one 20-sider, a set of order markers, and a generous supply of wound markers. At the start of the game I just hand each player a bag and they're ready to go. Now, before you look too long at the rest of the picture, let's just move along quickly to the next exhibit, shall we?

Ah, now we're getting to the good part. Here's my Utgar box:
It's basically a filing system. Almost all of my figures are in snack ziplocs again, and I made color-coded labels (keyed to the generals) that wrap up and over the front part of the bag opening, serving as an index tab. I separate heroes (with black-text tabs) from squads (with white-text tabs), then sort alphabetically within each of those two groups. I cut a couple of thin-but-sturdy cardboard dividers and taped them to the bottom of the box so the rows of bags wouldn't smoosh together.

Let's take a closer look at a few of the Utgar bags:
On the left: Heroes are collected in small, logical groupings, which occasionally change as my collection grows. The top bag is labeled ORC HEROES and currently contains a lonely Tornak. He's waiting to be joined someday by Ornak. (But where's Grimnak, you say? Patience, grasshopper.) The bottom bag is labeled SOULBORG HEROES and had to be upgraded to a sandwich-size bag, for obvious reasons. I only have a few of the larger bags in these boxes, and they tend to file reasonably well if I fold them carefully. Not pictured here are other hero bags labeled SWOG RIDERS and DUMUTEF GUARDS. I basically break heroes down into whatever groupings keep the bags manageable, as long as they are logically organized so I can quickly find things.

On the right: Squads are stored one per bag. Here you can see — but not read, sorry — ZOMBIES OF MORINDAN X2, DEATHREAVERS, and MARRO DRONES. With the exception of the paired Zombie squads, all of my squads are one per bag.

This system works really well during drafting; a player chooses an Army Card, tells me who it is, and I hand them the appropriate figure (for a hero) or just toss them the entire bag (for a squad).

Here are a few more bags, revealing a little more about my subjective groupings:
On the left: GRECO-ROMAN HEROES, GLADIATOR HEROES, and ASSORTED HEROES. I think every general has an "Assorted Heroes" bag. As you can imagine, this is where all the one-off stuff like Drake, lawmen, and Mittens ends up. (When I first hatched this whole scheme, I was originally planning to [for example] stick Drake in a bag with the Airborne Elite, but I quickly realized that would be messy: I couldn't just toss the squad to the drafting player without first removing Drake, and then where would I put him? And which MacDirk Warriors bag would Alastair go into? Yuck.) I like the fact that each "Assorted Heroes" bag alphabetizes itself to the front of its own general's group, making it easy to find the "loner" heroes.

On the right: TAGAWA SAMURAI and Vydar's SOULBORG HEROES bag. The latter is, again, sandwich size. Notice (or take my word for it!) that the Tagawa Samurai bag is already loaded with their experience markers — another nice advantage of the ziploc system.

It's amazing how many figures fit nicely into the snack-size bags. So many, in fact, that I had to buy a second box of snack ziplocs. Unfortunately, some figures don't really fit into any size ziploc very well, and that brings us back to Grimnak.

What about the oversized figures? The thing that started this whole crazy project was that I had determined early on that I was not going to keep removing wings from dragons and risk loosening the connection joint. This led me to build a two-story, double box with an L-shaped drawer inside that would hold extra-tall figures:
Here you can see (well, sort of see) the double-box shell on the left, with a small, upper drawer just starting to peek out and the larger, L-shaped drawer already pulled most of the way out toward the right.

Here's a higher angle:
It will perhaps make more sense when you see everything pulled apart:
The double-box shell has hexagonal labels telling me that the upper (smaller) drawer contains Jandar and Ullar figures, while the lower (larger, and weirder) drawer contains Vydar, Einar, and all the oversized figures. The smaller drawer fits on top of the larger L-shaped one, but there is actually a cardboard "shelf" inside the box so I can slide the small drawer in first all by itself, then slide in the larger one.

This photo also gives you an idea how quickly you could pull figures during a draft. Name a hero or squad, and you can probably find it in literally a couple of seconds. With the index tabs you just let your fingers do the walking.

This box was made when my collection was smaller, and the oversize-figure compartment really is too small now. It's quite a mess. I have started tagging and bagging a few of the figures in that section, but it's really in a mess right now; hence no close-up.

I do have one more RotV box with a Fortress set in it, but that's a mess too, so I didn't bother snapping it.

Well, that's about it. I'm not claiming this is the best way to store a Heroscape collection, but it seems to be working for me and hasn't cost me much money ... just a lot of time. Perhaps you can adapt a few of these ideas to your own collection.


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Re: Just_a_Bill's RotV-box Heroscape Collection Storage Syst

Oh yeah? Well this is my HS collection (the Ark of the Covenant is in there somewhere too):



Actually, I also use my MS boxes, as well as a VCR box and a couple of other boxes of comparable sizes and shapes. I always have to transport my HS stuff in order to play, so that set-up makes it easiest to carry everything around.

I like your labeling system. Talk about organized. My figures are separated by MS box into Squaddies, Uniques, and 2ble-Spaced figures- that's it. Certain terrain types are bagged to keep them separated. Its a workable system for now, but the collection is, of course, a work in progress. You know how it is.

Oh, also, J_A_B, your boss called, and since you didn't show up for work all this week while you were putting this little presentation together, they hired someone else to fill your spot.
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That's a lot of stuff...wow!
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I thought I was OCD. The Rock box looks familiar, but beyond that, well, just WOW.

(I also recently gave up on my earlier system of keeping all of the same terrain in one MS box, as I have found that game days--I am usually the one that does all the maps ahead of time at the game store--I want to have exactly one MS set in one MS box, so that I can more quickly assemble maps from the BoV. Also, others that show up early can be handed a MS box and a BoV print-out and go to work, without having to share boxed, etc.)

I miss when my sets looked more like yours (though never as organized--and labeled--my OCD sense are just tingling...). But I have enjoyed doing the public game days without having to invite everyone over to my house, so it has been worth it.

Blue Dane brings all the figures--using a very excellent tackle box system that now requires the largest rolling suitcase I've ever seen to hold them--but it remarkably ordered. I'm thinking I need to graduate to some tackle boxes for my own figures. Though your baggy system is sweet. Maybe tackle boxes plus little labeled baggies--oooh--that sounds just right....

Thanks for the tour, J_a_B. Very,very nice set up.
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Very, very cool.

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Blue Dane brings all the figures--using a very excellent tackle box system that now requires the largest rolling suitcase I've ever seen to hold them--but it remarkably ordered. I'm thinking I need to graduate to some tackle boxes for my own figures. Though your baggy system is sweet. Maybe tackle boxes plus little labeled baggies--oooh--that sounds just right....
It's funny 1Mmirg, I just finished posting pics of my collection. I'm into the portability factor.

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So, J_A_B, when are you coming to Iowa for a game day? I could use some organization help.
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Bill, you're a very sick man........


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Nice, but it seems that your figures would get bent. Do they not?

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Wow. That's some organization.
Great use of recycling both cardboard and box art.
I think the opening and closing those ziplock bags to gain access to my figures would drive me nuts.
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Thanks for the nice comments, everyone ... but you know you're only encouraging my eccentric tendencies, right?

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Oh, also, J_A_B, your boss called, and since you didn't show up for work all this week while you were putting this little presentation together, they hired someone else to fill your spot.
Excellent ... now I've got time to re-engineer that L-drawer.

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(I also recently gave up on my earlier system of keeping all of the same terrain in one MS box, as I have found that game days--I am usually the one that does all the maps ahead of time at the game store--I want to have exactly one MS set in one MS box, so that I can more quickly assemble maps from the BoV. Also, others that show up early can be handed a MS box and a BoV print-out and go to work, without having to share boxed, etc.)
I know what you mean, and this is definitely a downside of my system. Every time I build a one-master-set map, I ask myself if I really want to open three or four different boxes to get to the tiles. But my OCD pretty much won't let me not organize them. When your brain is wired this way, sometimes idealism trumps practicality. I try to balance them, but don't always succeed.

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Maybe tackle boxes plus little labeled baggies--oooh--that sounds just right....
Yeah, after now seeing Blue Dane's setup, I think you might be right!

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It's funny 1Mmirg, I just finished posting pics of my collection. I'm into the portability factor.
Now that's impressive. It's amazing how well the boxes accommodate the figures, and I love how cleanly all the boxes arrange into the suitcase.

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So, J_A_B, when are you coming to Iowa for a game day? I could use some organization help.
Love to. Just tell me whether you're sending the eTicket to Newport News or Norfolk International.

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Bill, you're a very sick man........
Guilty as charged, and thanks for noticing.

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Nice, but it seems that your figures would get bent. Do they not?
Excellent question. Not so far, they haven't. Just as with shipping, I think the secret to avoiding damage is immobilization, and this system seems to keep the figures pretty still. Out of habit I tend to squeeze most of the air out of any ziploc I close (food stays fresher that way), and this seems to keep individual figures from moving around within their own ziploc. Plus all the bags provide a little bit of "flexible fill" or "void fill", to use packing-industry terminology. The only figures I'm currently worried about are my large/huge ones because I've crammed them into that standing-room-only mosh pit. (Theracus keeps eyeing me suspiciously.) But I'll be fixing all that soon.

I'm actually more concerned about paint transfer than bending/breaking, which is why I've started trying to bag some of the oversized figures.

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Great use of recycling both cardboard and box art.
I think the opening and closing those ziplock bags to gain access to my figures would drive me nuts.
Thanks ... I love to recycle; I also cut sections of box art out of another MS1 and slid them into the covers of that white view binder. But that was just a little too geeky to disclose in my picture show.

Yeah, opening and closing all those bags would probably get to me, too, if I was able to play as frequently as I want to. But since I'm lucky if I get in two or three games per month, I have the freedom to optimize for the ideal rather than the practical. Sadly, I spend more time collecting and organizing than playing, so it hasn't been a problem yet. Plus I make the other players open and close their own darn bags.


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There are times that I feel this way too:
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Sadly, I spend more time collecting and organizing than playing, so it hasn't been a problem yet.
Hilarious that you happened to be posting your pictures, Blue Dane, when I made this comment to J_a_B. Blue Dane is what makes South Florida Heroscape fun for everyone!
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