The Book of Predator

[Yodaking]

Originally Posted by mac122

FWIW, we did an Uncommon Hero Predator in the Heroes of Fiction group. We used a self-destruct power that triggers when the Predator receives enough wounds to be destroyed. It required a d20 roll of 16 or higher.

They can be killed without blowing up though, so I definitely want to see some type of trigger for the self destruct power. I really like the count down theme too, so maybe have the Predator reveal the X to start the bomb, but then it only goes off if he is still on the board at the end of that round. So you could reveal the X on turn 1, 2, or 3 and then the opponent would have to scramble to avoid it by either killing the Predator off or running away, in which case extending the blast radious out a little more would be cool too. Losing initiative and then revealing he X on round 3 would still get you the instant boom though.

[streaky2007]

Originally Posted by Yodaking

They can be killed without blowing up though, so I definitely want to see some type of trigger for the self destruct power. I really like the count down theme too, so maybe have the Predator reveal the X to start the bomb, but then it only goes off if he is still on the board at the end of that round. So you could reveal the X on turn 1, 2, or 3 and then the opponent would have to scramble to avoid it by either killing the Predator off or running away, in which case extending the blast radious out a little more would be cool too. Losing initiative and then revealing he X on round 3 would still get you the instant boom though.

I'm really liking the sound of this. Care to re-write the power accordingly?

[streaky2007]

Originally Posted by Hellfire

I know what you mean ... I had little experience w/ forums before C3G and had similar issues at various times in the past.

In regard to your question about linking ... I believe Quozl is referring to this reference in the section about the "Design Phase":

OK, I've posted on both those threads as well. How do I PM a link to the heroes (without clicking links to find a list of them all, writing them down and then PMing them individually)? Why can't this forum just be like Outlook with an address book, with pre-created groups etc?

[Flame Gryphon]

Originally Posted by streaky2007

OK, I've posted on both those threads as well. How do I PM a link to the heroes (without clicking links to find a list of them all, writing them down and then PMing them individually)? Why can't this forum just be like Outlook with an address book, with pre-created groups etc?

Link

Or, more specifically

For PM purposes:
A3n ; Hahma ; IAmBatman ; johnny139 ; Lord Pyre ; quozl ; Scapemage ; SirGalahad

EDIT: Also, can anyone confirm if these are from the comics of if they're just fan art? Thanks.

Spoiler Alert!

[Tornado]

I think you nailed it YK.

In the second post of the Welcome to C3G thread there are tons of great links. One is a current member list that has all the Heroes listed in copy and paste form so you can do a group PM with the links.

I feel your pain streaky. Keep the faith it will all become clear with time.

EDIT: sweet FG

[Yodaking]

Originally Posted by streaky2007

I'm really liking the sound of this. Care to re-write the power accordingly?

I'll give it a shot.

SELF-DESTRUCT WRIST GAUNTLET
If this Predator has 2 or more wound markers on this card and did not move this turn, you may reveal an X Order Marker on this card. At the end of the round after an X Order Marker has been revealed on this card, if this Predator figure remains on the board, all figures within 3 spaces of the Predator receives 2 wounds, remove this Predator from the game.

Removing the figure from the game insures he can not be brought back somehow and blown up again and again. Requiring him to be at least injured clarifies that he is not a mad suicide bomber but making a calculated move to eliminate a worthy opponent. I kept in the no movement clause as well to keep him from just running in and blowing him self up on turn 3. However if he starts the bomb on turn 1, then can then use turns 2 and/or 3 to chase down his foe.

[A3n]

This oozes theme which I like, as long it is all relevant to the comics theme. I don't want to hear any more discussion about what happened in which movie as it isn't relevant here. We are designing comic customs not movie customs. So as long as you guys are basing the design & comments on the comic version & this represents the comic version then it all looks fine. If at all we really have to bring this to the C3G.

[Scapemage]

Originally Posted by streaky2007

I absolutely agree with Johnny. Not only is the marker name way too long (and lacking a color fwiw), it's not needed. Sure, many cards have markers, but its something we try to avoid if we can.

Originally Posted by Yodaking

Comic Art

I forget, what is the desired size limitation for the comic art?

800x600 pixels is the minimum size, unless there is literally nothing of use for that size or above.

Originally Posted by A3n

This oozes theme which I like, as long it is all relevant to the comics theme. I don't want to hear any more discussion about what happened in which movie as it isn't relevant here. We are designing comic customs not movie customs. So as long as you guys are basing the design & comments on the comic version & this represents the comic version then it all looks fine. If at all we really have to bring this to the C3G.

Having not seen the movies I must make my judgments on trust, but that does not change the fact that my judgments will be based on comics, not movies.

[Hellfire]

Originally Posted by Scapemage

Having not seen the movies I must make my judgments on trust, but that does not change the fact that my judgments will be based on comics, not movies.

We should be okay I think. For the most part the movie-verse and the comic-verse are one and the same.

[IAmBatman]

Taking what everyone's saying so far into account, here's my shot at a revised SP (I know it's early, but just pulling my own thoughts together at least):

NAME = THE PREDATOR
SECRET IDENTITY = SCAR

SPECIES = YAUTJA
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = HUNTER
PERSONALITY = RELENTLESS

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 6

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 250

YAUTJA CLOAKING DEVICE
The Predator may move through all figures and is never attacked when leaving an engagement. While occupying a non-water space, The Predator cannot be targeted by opponents' non-adjacent figures for any attacks or any special powers that require clear sight.

PLASMA CASTER SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 6. Attack 4.
If The Predator did not move this turn, add 1 automatic skull to whatever is rolled for this special attack. Plasma Caster Special Attack does not affect adjacent figures, figures occupying swamp water spaces, or figures with the Ice Resistance special power.

SELF-DESTRUCT WRIST GAUNTLET
After rolling initiative, you may reveal the "X" Order Marker on this card. If the "X" Order Marker is revealed on this card and you reveal the number 3 Order Marker on this card, each figure within 3 spaces of The Predator receives 2 automatic wounds and The Predator is destroyed.

[Yodaking]

Your version of the bomb is not bad. Then you have a full round to try and either kill the Predator or run away from him. It also prevents someone from taking temp. control of the figure and starting or setting off the bomb.

Still think the swamp water immunity could be dropped from the SA though.

[streaky2007]

I like Bats' re-write, plus others suggestions, so I'll try this...


NAME = PREDATOR

SPECIES = YAUTJA
UNIQUENESS = UNCOMMON HERO
CLASS = HUNTER
PERSONALITY = RELENTLESS

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 6

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 250

YAUTJA CLOAKING DEVICE
Predator may move through all figures and is never attacked when leaving an engagement. While occupying a non-water space, this Predator cannot be targeted by opponents' non-adjacent figures for any attacks or any special powers that require clear sight.

PLASMA CASTER SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 6. Attack 4.
If this Predator did not move this turn, add 1 automatic skull to whatever is rolled for this special attack. Plasma Caster Special Attack does not affect adjacent figures, figures occupying swamp water spaces, or figures with the Ice Resistance special power.

SELF-DESTRUCT WRIST GAUNTLET
At the end of a round, if you reveal an "X" Order Marker on this card, and there are at least 2 wound markers on this card, each figure within 3 spaces of this Predator receives 2 automatic wounds and this Predator is destroyed. This Predator may not return to the battlefield by any special power on an Army Card or glyph.