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In general, the more playtests you can get in before submitting the form, the more reliable and informed your opinions will be on the unit. Of course, you could submit the reports before the form, but its nicer to have them altogether so that its easy to see what game experiences your opinions are based off of. Formerly known as capsocrates -- Remixed Master Sets - challenge yourself with new terrain combinations! -- Colorado Fall 2023 Multiplayer Madness -- caps's Customs Redux - caps's multiplayer maps - caps's maps - Seagate -- Continuing Classic Heroscape: C3V SoV |
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Gandalf with the current form:
Theme: Pass Fun: Pass Fun Opposition: Pass Usage: Pass Strategy: Pass Bonding: Pass Synergy: Not sure due to Raelin Power Check: Pass Drafting: Fail because he is way too fragile Mirror: Pass Army Test 1: Gandalf, Raelin, Kaemon Awa, and 3x Rats vs. 3x Gladiatrons, 3x Blastatrons, and Raelin on Quasatch Valley The Trons won with 1 Glad and 8 Blasts left, after dropping one Blast. It was a decent game, but Gandalf was too easy to kill. Once the Rats died, it was all over. My thoughts on this game: Gandalf is way too fragile and not worth his points. If we want a B- or C+, leave him the way he is. I suggest 1 more die on his SA, 1 more range, and 1 more defense to keep him alive. Even with those changes, I would rather have a dragon, hydra, Krav, Q9, or Q10, so he still won't be overpowered. I think he would probably fall into the B+ range. Casters of Valhalla: THE Competitive HeroScape Podcast!
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Hm... I'd like to see you submit more tests before making such sweeping statements.
Good thing he lost against a Tier 1+ army though. Formerly known as capsocrates -- Remixed Master Sets - challenge yourself with new terrain combinations! -- Colorado Fall 2023 Multiplayer Madness -- caps's Customs Redux - caps's multiplayer maps - caps's maps - Seagate -- Continuing Classic Heroscape: C3V SoV |
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OK, I'll do another one.
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Gandalf with the current form:
Theme: Pass Fun: Pass Fun Opposition: Pass Usage: Pass Strategy: Pass Bonding: Pass Synergies: Pass- Raelin isn't a problem Power: Pass Drafting: Fail see below Mirror: Pass Army Test 2: Gandalf, Raelin, Kaemon Awa, and 3x Rats vs. 5x Roman Legos, Me-Burq-Sa, Ne-Gok-Sa, and Marcus on Black Root The Roman army won with 10 Romans and Marcus with 2 life left. Gandalf doesn't have the firepower to take down a Tier 2 army. He should have 1 more range, 1 more die with his SA, and 1 more defense. Right now he is way overpriced. Casters of Valhalla: THE Competitive HeroScape Podcast!
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Formerly known as capsocrates -- Remixed Master Sets - challenge yourself with new terrain combinations! -- Colorado Fall 2023 Multiplayer Madness -- caps's Customs Redux - caps's multiplayer maps - caps's maps - Seagate -- Continuing Classic Heroscape: C3V SoV |
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Gandalf should not necessarily be the one doing most of the fighting. His SA is powerful, and his ranged attack is on par with the strongest in the game (albeit with a shorter range), but I would try to use him to help with positioning, take an opportunistic attack with him now and then, and mostly try to save him for cleanup. Rats are not a good combo for Gandalf specifically--they are good for characters with lots of range, which Gandalf does not have. In your build, I would spend a round or so getting my rats out in position, then use Gandalf to move Raelin and Kaemon simultaneously. Once they were in position I would do most of my fighting with Kaemon himself, putting OMs on him to move him around within Raelin's aura behind the rat screen. Ana Karithon + Raelin + Kaemon Awa + Gandalf would create a nice core for a pod, and then you could fill the rest of your army with Warriors of Ashra, Deathreavers, or whatever seemed appropriate for the map and matchup. Gandalf + Raelin + Eltahale + Tandros Kreel + Kaemon Awa/Syvarris looks like fun to me--use Gandalf to move three of the heroes to a good spot, then spend an OM or two to move the last hero (Raelin, if the spot is close enough that she can get there in one turn, or Kaemon Awa, if the spot is further) into position. You might also consider throwing Haduc in there--he can be pretty tough when you put an OM or two on him, and he has decent range and attack. Anyone else have strategy suggestions? Formerly known as capsocrates -- Remixed Master Sets - challenge yourself with new terrain combinations! -- Colorado Fall 2023 Multiplayer Madness -- caps's Customs Redux - caps's multiplayer maps - caps's maps - Seagate -- Continuing Classic Heroscape: C3V SoV |
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I've run Gandalf with Raelin, Syvarris, and I think Agent Carr previously.
More recently (and still need to write up) a test of Gandalf with Shotgun Sullivan, Eldgrim, Sir Gilbert, and Knights x2 (vs. Romans, 10th Regiment, Marcus, Parmenio, and Raelin). faure's comic customs: http://www.heroscapers.com/community...ad.php?t=35308 faure's classic customs: http://www.heroscapers.com/community....php?p=1368594 |
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Ok, next I'll try:
180 Gandalf 100 Ana Karithon 80 Raelin 120 Kaemon Awa 20 Marcu Casters of Valhalla: THE Competitive HeroScape Podcast!
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620 points with Syvarris Unfortunately the "core" of any Gandalf army is so expensive that it becomes the whole army. |
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It looks like our tests are showing Raelin to be a mostly futile addition to Gandalf-based armies. We'll need some more tests to be sure, but maybe then we should move on to non-Raelin tests. With that said, I imagine that Ana Karithon might be a little more useable with Gandalf--if he can keep her nearby so she can use her healing power. Formerly known as capsocrates -- Remixed Master Sets - challenge yourself with new terrain combinations! -- Colorado Fall 2023 Multiplayer Madness -- caps's Customs Redux - caps's multiplayer maps - caps's maps - Seagate -- Continuing Classic Heroscape: C3V SoV |
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